[Winter Event] JoaTJoaTJoaT13 - Mafia wins!

Sup

@eevee do you exist

Also @WindwardAway do you exist

Iā€™m here, yes

Okay

So

What are your top 1-2 town and scum atm

Top town probably Arctic and Eevee rn.
Scum pool keeps changing because I think the scum have actually not been posting as much as town here. I have my doubts about Shurian whoā€™s sitting at null, maybe nullscum right now. Min is still at a null but Eliā€™s claim makes them look better. Eliā€™s claim also makes him look better (but stupider as well). However, I want to look at Light and Marl more. I feel like Light isnā€™t solving as much as he could be, and I have a lot of doubt about Marl because heā€™s just kind of quiet and letting his vote sit on me. He hasnā€™t said much else after placing a vote and saying I look like scum, which is literally something that almost everyone has said at this point.

Iā€™m also noting the people who are townclearing me (Shurian) because Iā€™d like to know their reasons for doing so while everyone else is scumreading me.

My issue atm is you not taking any real stances pings me as wolfy. Especially as a newer player

I can just post my current readlist. I just donā€™t trust it, as Iā€™ve said before.

Town

Arctic
Eevww
PKR
Illwei
Intensify
Derps
Maple
Shurian
Min
Eli
Light
Marl

Scum

So letā€™s talk about just marl for a moment

Everyone above the last two Iā€™d say is roughly null. I have more townleans than scumleans in this list, though.

Why is marl a wolf

Iā€™ll ISO, give me a few minutes to get to a computer.

Itā€™s something about Marlā€™s presence in this thread thatā€™s pinging me,but Iā€™m not confident enough to push it,eespecially after I said I assumed that nobody voting me is actually scum. But I thought about it more after I said that, and figured because Iā€™m a very easy push and almost universally scumread by now, itā€™s easy for a wolf to hop on and vote me.

Votes aside, I donā€™t feel like Marl is doing much solving here, but maybe thatā€™s because theyā€™ve just not been as active yet.

Donā€™t look at what they havenā€™t done atm look at the content they have atm and see what you think

ISO on Marl so far:

I donā€™t remember what even led up to this, but it was pretty early so idk if it was a serious dartboard or not.

Marl seems to have doubts about PKR, something they express a couple of times, but never votes PKR. Unless Iā€™m totally misreading everything theyā€™ve written because something flew over my head.

Thought Marl was going to make an effort here, but the results of their efforts are a bit underwhelming in my opinion (quoted further down).

Iā€™ve taken that into account and Maple looks less scummy than I initially thought. But Iā€™m not familiar with their plays at all so I need to give it more thought. Marl is more experienced, so Iā€™d like to trust them, but I donā€™t want to trust someone who could still be scum.

Voted me, didnā€™t say much about it.

At least they gave a readlist here. Still didnā€™t explain why Eli looks towny, didnā€™t explain why Intensify looks towny. I donā€™t know why Marl is townclearing them.
I think the Maple/Eevee scum thing is interesting, but at the same time I donā€™t necessarily see it because I think they were cooperating in the JoaT fiasco. Not sure if Marlā€™s opinion has changed at all since then.
Gave a reason for voting me, but itā€™s literally the same blanket reason that everyone has given, so Iā€™m not actually reading it as a good reason anymore. Itā€™s a reason, yes, but literally anyone could say that about me and my crappy posts here.
I didnā€™t see Arctic relax, actually, so Iā€™m not sure if I missed something? Iā€™ve seen mixed reads on Arctic but nobody has scumread him over me, so I think Iā€™d like to hear more on why people are scumreading Arctic at this point because it almost sounds like a setup.

I disagree because Iā€™m not scum and I donā€™t think Arctic is scum. I thought Maple was scum but they look less scummy than others after the JoaT claims got thrown around, as I said before, but they are kind of an easy point-and-push if theyā€™re town because they dropped some fluff posts and then claimed JoaT with absolutely no backing to make their claim even look realistic, so as someone else said, it looks dumb as town but it looks dumber as scum. So I donā€™t like that Marl is reading what I consider to be ā€œscummy-looking townā€ as scum. Easy push.

Iā€™d like reasons given.

Again with disagreeing with PKR, but not pushing him or anything. I guess I donā€™t really get whatā€™s going on with his read on PKR or whether itā€™s just a matter of conflicting opinions.

I didnā€™t judge people for that. I figured it was NAI since neither town nor scum would want to get caught MLing a PR on D1. It would just beā€¦ bad, as min claimed JoaT first. If min claimed 3rd or 4th JoaT, honestly nobody would care. And at this point, people are back to spreading the sus between all of the four JoaT claims we now have, but Marl wrote this after min claimed and before anyone else did.

Sorry that took me 15 minutes but thereā€™s my ISO.

Forgot to write my conclusion but it should be kind of obvious from what I said that Iā€™m scumleaning on Marl at the moment.

Note that Marl scumread Maple before the JoaT claim, while Maple was just fluffposting past the meme phase. Thatā€™s why I said easy push; I also wanted to push them for that but I think I was wrong now. Iā€™d like to know if Marl has changed their opinion on Maple or Eevee since then.

why is illwei so high

I probably canā€™t post another ISO before the end of the day as Iā€™ll be on mobile and just check in occasionally if I have the time. But feel free to ask me any questions and Iā€™ll answer them.

But if youā€™re going to ask why Iā€™m scum, Iā€™m just going to answer that itā€™s because I have scummy posts, duh.

I actually donā€™t know where to place Illwei tbh. Most of the people aside from the top three and the bottom two are floating around freely right now in my readlist and I kind of hate it. Should probably have formatted that differently. Also idk how I managed to mistype Eeveeā€™s name, lol. But Illwei was lower on the list and then I decided to move Intensify and Shurian down, which pushed Illwei up. So, sheā€™s nulltown for me I guess, but I donā€™t have a solid read on her at all.

most of illweiā€™s content is garbage especially the post on you being wolfy for trying to solve when you were being pushed

look at my wallpost from a few hours ago