[Winter Event] JoaTJoaTJoaT13 - Mafia wins!

[PokemonKidRyan]

Fair enough Shuri.
I think my read on you still holds as town.

I know you said your reads on myself, Marl and maybe some others too earlier.
Have any of them changed?

[Arete]

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
WindwardAway	Marluxion, ArcticIX	2/7
EliThePsycho	Min, Maple, WindwardAway, eevee	4/7
eevee	PokemonKidRyan	1/7
Maple	EliThePsycho	1/7
Not voting	Light, Intensify, SirDerpsAlot, Illwei, Shurian	5

Ping me if there are issues with the VC

[Shurian]

I’m pretty sure none of my locktown today has really changed at all. (Wind, PKR)

Iirc the nulls (Marl, Eevee, Maple, Light and Intensify) have been shifting around a bit. Some from null to SLean, some to NullT.

Memers were in a bad light but I think I can put aside Maple for today. (Considering the situation)

SDA sure has changed, I remember seeing “content content”. A year sure does someone good. I haven’t analysed those yet though.

I need to look more into SDA, Min, Arctic, Illwei, Light and Intensify. Those are names that I’ll have more difficulty pushing them onto my percentage of town list. (I treat Maple as Another Eevee, and thus ignoring them for the time being as I won’t be able to place them until Eli is dead).

The game better have flips

I’ll refer back to this post and start the massacre of my poor eyes once I’m back from dinner.

[eevee]

More Joats, More Joats!

[Arctic]

so the post count literally doubled while i was sleeping, yippee

@eevee

Hey @Manti chose one person I should sheep all game, without bringing anything new to the thread myself.

typical eevee being useless, but unfortunately this is NAI

@WindwardAway

there are also distinct differences between this game and that game.

this is a bad post
why would you act differently tonally just because the setup is different

@WindwardAway

because you guys are finding my tone scummy when it shouldn’t be

you’re right, it shouldn’t be, but it is

@eevee

Also min already outed me as second joat, so like…

great, we now have both JOATs outted D1

@Maple

im actually a joat but im not going to say which one yet

this is a joke
maple didn’t even know JOAT abilities were listed in the setup

@Maple

im not sure which joat claim between the two is fake so we should yeet outside the claims

what
this post is stupid - if you say which one you are then we’ll know which one is fake
but then again i think he was joking anyway

and if he’s joking it’s still completely anti-town behaviour
why would a VT claim 3rd JOAT

@Illwei

So Wind wend from Annoyed, Self-voting, thinking she was dead to all of a sudden up and about, prodding people, asking questions, appearing helpful? someone tell me if you didn’t see this but this feels scummy to me.

this seems really forced and stupid
it’s better that she tries to do something than just sit and accept her death and doing so is probably NAI

@EliThePsycho

i think that maple is just making us WIFOM
and that’s their plan

basically this is the only positive thing that could come out of this, although the whole 3rd joat claim was still very bad

even though maple’s play is probably stupid after already claiming VT, i feel like it’s even more stupid to come from mafia because he would just be lynched after another JOAT dies (presumably he doesn’t retract his claim but i think that would still kill him anywy) and that’s not really worth it since the JOATs are actually quite weak

@Intensify

Wind never gets lonched here ever.

uh, yes, i think she does, actually

@Intensify

Sew choas… or ummm if you’re uhh Prince… and uhh you need a night to…

(i’m happy i think i know what this is referencing)

@eevee

Okay, if you aren’t retracting then I am retracting. Duh.

Maple is real joat, trust them. :^)

lol

@WindwardAway

pretty sure I spectated a game where a mafia goon openwolfed D1 to save their PR scummates, so yeah. that’s a thing.

@eevee

Thank you Windward that you said you are mafia joat I guess?

i-
this is hilarious but out of the 700 posts i’ve missed there’s hardly been anything useful

@EliThePsycho

@eevee

Chaos lets PRs to possibly hide again.

you yourself said that the PRs are USELESS here

this tbh
i would get this strategy if the PRs were actually useful

@min

Vote eli now or you’re scumbuds with him

and you guys say i deathtunnel people

@WindwardAway

I’m actually not scumbuds with him so I don’t care if he dies tomorrow lol

this is
yikes?

@WindwardAway

but I literally did. Eli flipped his vote on min a couple times and I said I don’t like how it looks. Is that not enough of an ISO?

if he was a wolf why would he do this
it just makes him look more wolfy
if he was a wolf he would have no doubts/inconsistency and just sit on the min wagon

@SirDerpsAlot

Why does that make him a wolf

basically this, yeah

@WindwardAway

and for that matter, I don’t think there’s any scum on my wagon. I’m pretty sure everyone who’s been voting me is actually just town and I’m doing a horrible job of playing this game.

interesting
tbh i’m worried that like the 3 mafia are like PKR, derps and shurian and are just watching us all kill ourselves

@WindwardAway

But I don’t trust my reads so I’m not pushing them anymore.

why
we haven’t even had any flips this game

@EliThePsycho

false
maple is openwolfing
infact they invented the chaos guide thing so
eevee is following
you are following

tbh this is making eli look much worse
maple’s play is even more stupid as mafia than as town, it was obviously a fakeclaim

@EliThePsycho

anyways
it seems i am not getting maple lynched
tell me if ur willing to vote maple and i’ll re-vote them
for now i guess i’ll just have to persaude windward to vote min, the next-best thing (mostly because somebody might actually vote them)
/vote Min

i feel like this is TWTBAW from eli, but still not a good look

@min

Eli if ur town I’m gonna be so disappointed

If you’re scum I’m going to be so
disappointed

basically this

@EliThePsycho

I hardclaim JoaT B

oh my fucking god, really
what

@WindwardAway

lol everyone else who already came in to witness the fiasco already shat their pants, it’s just the Europeans left now

hooray

@PokemonKidRyan

Also their tone of anger and frustration earlier came across as pure.
I could imagine being really annoyed in their position.

please don’t use this to read min
min is very good at doing this as a wolf as well

[Arctic]

also marl’s new content is really underwhelming
what if scum is just sitting under the radar like marl, illwei and derps/light

[eevee]

They are.

[WindwardAway]

It’s not a self-pres regardless of where I place my vote lol

[WindwardAway]

Actually yeah, if scum jumped into the fray it would’ve been much more risky than simply sitting back and watching. My readlist has been flipping around a whole lot and as I said, I don’t trust it right now.

[WindwardAway]

Here’s the thing. I gave it some more thought after I left for the night, and I don’t even think I’m willing to say that scum claimed JoaT already. I think there was basically one JoaT claim from min being upped, a JoaT claim from (hopefully) town who was rolling with min’s claim, a poorly timed JoaT claim from Maple, and another poorly timed JoaT claim from Eli. I was frustrated, I was wrong, I misread pretty much all of it, and I am stupid.

But I am not a wolf, I am kind of disappointed in Maple and Eli for the timing of their plays, and I am taking my vote off for now since people have catching up to do before EoD.

/unvote

[WindwardAway]

*the second JoaT claim was Eevee, obviously, I accidentally deleted that for some reason.

[WindwardAway]

I do have a question, though. Maple and Shurian have both said that “chaos is good” as a town strategy, but if it prompts town to push itself off a cliff, I don’t see how that’s a good thing. We are a mix of newcomers and veterans in this game, and not all actions will be interpreted the same by everyone, based on experience and perception. And not all chaos is good chaos. I think since several reaction tests have been performed and presumably town has failed them, I don’t see what we’re getting out of it.

[WindwardAway]

We also have a mix of players who are more impulsive and direct, and players who are reserved and will sit back and observe. Chances are, there is town in both categories but I’m not sure whether scum spans both categories. Possibly, as there are 3 scum, and I’m pretty sure the mafia JoaT has not openly claimed JoaT for obvious reasons.

Im guessing the results of the reaction tests are just… Really disappointing to the people who were testing lol.

Also hi, I’m talking to myself because it’s dead in here.

[min]

Hi

Idk what to say other then Eli could clearly be commiting a form of self pres here from claiming joat

I do not trust him at all especially after he claimed joat b but voted ME.

[WindwardAway]

I’m just disappointed in him either way for poor timing lol.
Same with Maple.

[Maple]

Aot of words for 2 village reads and 10 null reads

[WindwardAway]

Like there’s a place and time, and a strategy to go with it, if you’re going to counterclaim and make it look realistic. But neither did so.

Im also disappointed in myself for even bothering to play this game when totally sleep deprived. I shouldve shut up instead of making a drama and you’re all valid for scumreading for it, but as shitty of a town player as I’ve been here, do you seriously think I’d be stupid enough to flip my shit like this on being wagoned as a wolf

[WindwardAway]

Oops. I meant to say, “and you’re all valid for scumreading me for it”

[WindwardAway]

I’m an easy ML here, Arctic is more or less in his obvtown mode in my opinion, and what I’m trying to figure out now is whether any wolves thought voting me and validating Arctic would be a safe move. But since town definitely thinks I’m scummy anyway, I don’t know how to read the votes on me yet.

[WindwardAway]

Anyway, keep that in mind when you vote me. I don’t really see how I wouldn’t get yeeted today so I just wanted to share thoughts before that. I don’t think I’ll be around for EoD.