Butler is awful, new change is great but also worse

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#81

Is it? Unless you Yolo take away someone, you are unlikely to be able to use it affectively.

#82

Who the heck can find the NK or MM before day 3? I say if you’re that good, you deserve to get 'em. I guess it could keep bad butlers from yoloing, so it’s fine.

#83

I mean butlers can just yolo and remove prince’s passives

#84

So he loses royal blood and occupy immunity? With no true night abilities, does occupying him even do anything? Like if a drunk happy hours him, can he not execute?

Honestly the BD passives seem to be of very low importance. Plus, plenty of classes can yolo and mess things up, I don’t think that’s a good argument against an ability. Prince most of all can yolo, kill someone, and then imprison some other poor guy over and over if he’s so inclined to ruin the game.

#85

Yes

But not like this but that’s why he can’t use execute until night 3

#86

Hah, I had no idea that drunk could lock down the prince. That’s hilarious.

Anyway, I’m fine with adding whatever restrictions. It was just a thought anyway. Something besides a situational, one-time king assassination to help give butler a more unique role.

#87

Prince doesn’t lose passive from drunk HH

#88

He can still execute look at wiki

#89

Agreed. Happy hour and concentrated wine should just be swapped(Drunk would occupy everyone visiting them and butler would remove immunities. They would still have the same names).

#90

I agree that there should be fewer classes with occupy immunity, but not mastermind. There are two many conversion immune classes as is, that would make it worse.

Or just give happy hour to butler and concentrated wine to drunk.

#91

Concentrated wine is one of the things that makes Butler sometimes better than drunk though.

#92

Plus that still does not solve the problem of Wine being a downgraded version of Debauchery

#93

My solution does

#94

I will add my 50 cents - Maybe make Party skill tell Butler who visited him? Like: “5, 6 and 12 attended your party and were occupied whole night long”.

That would be some info Butler can add to the Court table

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#95

Apparently the name isn’t party :frowning:

Ask @NuclearBurrito

#96

It’s called concentrated wine

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#97

I think we need a petition to make it called party

RIOT

Get ur icecream :ice_cream: and pitch forks here

#98

@Firelitten @NuclearBurrito

I actually always called it “party” - but ok :slight_smile:

Still think, that current concetrated wine skill is very dull, as you dont even know if you have occupied anyone.
At least make it say say “you occupied someone visiting you”, so that I have some feel of pride making a good choice this night.

#99

I agree

#100

But HH goes through immunity that happened to me once as prince