[Class Suggestion] New Faction: The REVOLT

New faction: The Revolt.

This is a conversion faction like the Unseen or Cult, based on the concept of a group of people who want to take over the kingdom and usurp the rightful royal family.

The factions starts with a Warlord and a Henchman.

The new player who is converted always becomes a Toady, unless the Henchman is dead or has become the new Warlord, in which case the new player will become Henchman. (Just like how you become Assassin if there’s no Assassin.)

Faction cap would probably be the standard 3 players.

Faction gets its own standard night chat like Unseen and Cult get.

If a Revolt member becomes King, they become Evil King.

The counter to the Revolt is the Accuser. Please remember Sheriff, Paladin, and Inquisitor are already counters. Complaints of “hard counters suck” will be ignored. Please respect the existing game as it is being developed. XD


Classes:


Warlord (REVOLT)

Passive:
Unblinking - Immune to occupation on nights you aren’t attacked. Immune to attack on nights you aren’t occupied. In other words, you can only be occupied or killed at night if you are both attacked and occupied at the same time.

Day Ability:
Usurp - Force the King to use Royal Finger on a target of your choice. Does not use up any charges of King’s ability. (2 uses.)

Night Ability 1:
Coup de Grace - Select a player to kill, adding 1 charge to your “Treason” night ability. (Unlimited use.)

Night Ability 2:
Treason - Convert a target player to the Revolt. (2 starting uses. No cool down, but needs to be recharged with murders.)


Henchman (REVOLT)

Passive:
Opportunity Knocks - You will become the new Warlord if the current Warlord dies.

Day Ability:
Wanted - Place a bounty on a player’s head. The target dies after two nights, bypassing Death Immunity, unless they are guarded by a Knight, King, or Mercenary. (4 uses. STOP KILLING KNIGHT CLAIMS! XD)

^ For example, if you are marked as “Wanted”, when a Knight guards you that night, it would say something like: “You were guarded by a Knight, King or Mercenary. You are no longer in danger.” - In terms of lore, no one wants to collect on your bounty because they see you’re likely to be guarded against them.

Night Ability 1:
Scapegoat - Carry out the Warlord’s work for him. You will appear as the visitor, and you will take any negative effects from the visit, such as Hunter’s Bear, Knight’s Guard, etc. (Unlimited use.)

Night Ability 2:
Insider - Discover the class type of a Blue Dragon, or the exact class of a Neutral, depending on which you’ve targeted. (3 uses.)


Toady (REVOLT)

Passive:
Servitude - If the Henchman dies or is promoted to Warlord, you will become Henchman.

Day Ability:
Ear Plug - Prevent a player from hearing others for the rest of the day, including not being able to hear whispers to them. They can still see whisper notices, votes, etc. and can still talk though they don’t see others’ chat. (4 uses.)

Night Ability 1:
Boot Lick - Heal a member of the Revolt of bleeding or poison. Includes Evil King. (2 uses.)

Night Ability 2:
Annoy - Redirect one player to another, simultaneously occupying the second player. How annoying… Bypasses immunity. (4 uses.)


Accuser (BLUE DRAGON)

Passive:
Rebuke - If the Warlord tries to convert you, you will automatically prevent them. (Making him think he was simply prevented from converting you.)

Day Ability:
Big Brother - You will secretly hear the next 4 whispers that day. (3 uses.)

Night Ability 1:
A Night in the Stocks - Check to see if your target is a member of the Revolt. Usable after the first time the Warlord kills. (Unlimited use.)

Night Ability 2:
Rat Helmet - If the player you select tries to murder someone tonight, you will kill them instead. If you attempt to kill a Blue Dragon, they will survive and you will lose any remaining uses of this ability. (3 uses.)


Hope ya like it. :open_mouth: As you can see, this is a super-simplified faction. Probably a good one for people to “learn” with, since conversions always create the same Revolt lineup.

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How is the Toady supposed to maintain whatever claim he was using?

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Lying. XD

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As a butler or psy? Or other non-fakable class that he would have presumably claimed?

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I’m not really concerned with fake claims, etc. When I write class ideas, I just try to build something interesting. It can always be tweaked.

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Basically classes converted from non-fakable classes should be able to fake their old class as effectively as possible.

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But if you’re converted to Assassin… :slight_smile:

That’s why I specified Toady.

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Not to be rude. But I would not want to be converted into a faction that only has 3 classes

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Or if you’re Psychic who gets converted and can’t link to prove anymore…

Can’t help you with that.

@NuclearBurrito I saw u in game hello

There are limits as to what is possible. They tried giving illusionist link and it turned out to be a bad idea.

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Or if you’re a Physician who gets converted and can’t heal anymore…

I don’t see not being able to ‘prove’ your class as a problem that prohibits things like this. If you end up converted and unable to prove, it might’ve been a good idea to hold your class a little closer to the vest before you were converted.

Whispering “I’m Drunk!” to the King day one or two is kind of the player’s fault, etc. On top of that, you’re most likely going to have some other problem when you get converted - like not being able to heal or link people - so it’s kind of a moot point imho.

Heal isn’t confirmable unless they are attacked. So just claim to heal people that aren’t attacked. It’s not a problem with classes that are fake able anyway. (Also herbalist has drug).

No. As BD it is better to claim to someone trustworthy as soon as they exist. Even if it might screw you over if you get converted thinking like that is game throwing.

“I’m still poisoned, 7 isn’t Physician.”

If we’re accepting that being converted can screw you over, as you just said, what’s the issue? You just accepted it in current game play, so why not in theoretical “Revolt” game play?

The issue is that with your proposed faction it ALWAYS screws you over as any offensive or social class and some invest classes. Sure you could know that the phys claim is converted if he can’t heal your poison. But guess who poisons people? The Unseen! Who knows they converted an herbalist who can’t heal poison.

A butler who is converted doesn’t have such a simple solution. Hence them keeping occupy. Same with drunk, obs, psy and to some extent princess.

If you look at the unseen conversions for the classes I didn’t just mention then you will notice that they are completely different from the BD versions. The one’s I did mention besides psy have carbon copy conversions. This is why.

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What would you say is the class you’d be “most” concerned about being converted to Toady? Maybe I can address it better if we go specifics.

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There are 3. Butler, Drunk and Noble.

I am consirned about more but those are the biggest problems.

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I think we should put observer and psychic on that list too.