If we tie the vote on me and cloned I feel like thats always tvt and then we just lose
that’s the point
if we do happen to tie between us
then we hve exactly 50% chance of winning
…which I see approximately as good as our current chances
(that said I think this is a dumb idea)
is that just what zone does in all of his games lmao
my understanding is that it’s common on his home forum
It is between Arete and Appel. I want to just say it’s Appel, but there is a tinfoil that says that it’s Arete who is making it seem like it’s Arete. Like Appel trying to keep the doors open and trying to soft defend Light at the EoD is scummy as hell, but I feel like them voting Light when Light voted Arete is kind of towny. My tinfoil includes stuff I mentioned before and that Arete was trying to frame Appel, but that’s just a tinfoil
Aka I think it’s likely just Appel, but this is something I am not 100% confident in
I’m
still tending to think that Arete’s megabraining us
gorta when you gonna sleep
did you ever figure out if you had, like, questions you wanted to ask me
like
I am very very deep into my villager range and very far from my wolf range and I think both these facts are obvious
but clearly they are not obvious or we wouldn’t be having this conversation
no
I’m not thinking this is true
ree
okay
are … there specific questions you want to ask me to help you evaluate for yourself whether it is true
How many hours do we have left?
explain
explain
4.5 currently
Damnit, I have to think about this while dead tired
Good morning
Time to ISO both Gorta and Arete… when I get out of bed
sure
the obvious thing is – I’m not, actually, good at acting villagery as scum, and mostly I don’t try to (the exception is NK because NK doesn’t have TMI and can literally just play as a villager). this one is kind of hard to explain because most people aren’t super familiar with the difference but if you read my posts it is clear that I don’t know who the wolves are and that’s not, actually, something I can fake. in particular, I have a hard time faking my thought process as scum, and especially faking any form of reevaluation.
when I play scum I really really hate to bus, I almost never do it (like, the rare times when I’ve attempted to bus are ‘I have a completely useless teammate who everyone thinks is a wolf and who has obvious meta tells’) and even then I rarely do it, like, in FoL 28 I vaguely tried to bus Italy but wound up reversing that and hard defending him even though he was literally the most blatant wolf in existence. I’d be especially unlikely to bus here – like, on D1, people were mostly townreading me and basically expecting me to die at night, bussing Wazza wouldn’t really help me were I scum (since people were already townreading me) and would raise more questions about why I didn’t die, as well as making the neut more likely to townside source 1 (was N2 convert) source 2 source 3 (was N3 convert) source 4
these also … aren’t the nightkills I make as scum basically ever. cloned’s been talking about how I could in theory be scum megabraining everyone but killing off all the people harddefending you and letting the people who’ve been tunnelling you since D1 live is not in fact mega-brain, that’s zero-brain. this one is harder to give meta examples of because most games on this site are PR-heavy in a way that ends up dominating the nightkills but as an example I would give Candlelight – Marshal was tunnelling me all of D1, I killed him N1, and everyone just ignored him. like, in this case I wouldn’t even have needed to ““implicate”” myself with a nightkill as cloned was top wagon on D1 until I pushed a CFD onto Wazza and, were I scum, I would have just … let him die
lastly, Light and I don’t actually make sense on a team together. like, if you re-read EoD1, I was trying to CFD Wazza while Light was trying his hardest to resist the Wazza elim. it makes no sense to have the more townread member of a wolfteam hard-bus the third member and the less townread member hard-defend the third member, like, there is no world in which that is a remotely good plan. the way Light and I treated each other on D4 also doesn’t make sense for partners, like, I think a lot of people are getting caught up on the fact that Light was defending me, but were we W/W there would be no reason to have one of us bus the other and the other one harddefend them.