Debatable but I’ll be back later
not really
i have (almost) nothing to gain from posting that and everything to lose
if i were to play optimal id just shut up no matter my alignment
im “clogging thread” i guess but its not like anything else is going on right now
so im just exposing myself here
even from your pov since you’re not actually voicing your read we cant even call this discussion worthwhile
thats like discussing mafia theory tier of not doing much
i could see you as town thinking maybe im scum trying to appear as if im doing something but honestly the argument itself only makes sense if im in poe
im not really apealing to anyone here
currently wondering if leafia 60 posting is ai
i think that until leafia is pressured the post count isnt very ai at all
Anyway back to this
Strong Town reads
Vulgard/YBW/Windward top town
Astand/AT/PKR/TWL strong reads
POE slots we should sort today who I believe have odds to flip w
Ami/Leafia/Gorta/Cheese
idk if Leafia getting sorted today is optimal but I think it’s something I’d like to do
same with ami tbh
| Accused | Voters | Count |
|---|---|---|
| Light | sculptordwarf,eevee | 2/11 |
| Ami | Vulgard | 1/11 |
| Centuries | Light | 1/11 |
| AtNoName | rat | 1/11 |
| Leafia | AtNoName | 1/11 |
| ClonedCheese | min | 1/11 |
| an_gorta_pratai | Centuries | 1/11 |
| Not voting | Ami, dota, PKR, YoubutWorse, WindwardAway, ArcticXI, astand, Leafia, an_gorta_pratai, TrustworthyLiberal, Clonedcheese, Kyodaz | 12 |
The thing about gorta is I feel like they were more active during their scum game, but I dont know if theyre just trying a new strategy or are just town
unfortunate that i didn’t get a chance to play with seth
also is there a way to make the forum have pages?
what i end up doing is just mindlessly scrolling as if i’m on social media without reading anything
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I started with a VCA on the wagons yesterday and I ended up with a 17-people ISO
I need more time ._.
What
Welp hi, I think I’m too tired to do the ISOing now and I gotta sleep soon anyway, but I’ll get going on it when I’m awake. Seems like we’re looking at Light, Leafia and Gorta today? And Cheese when he’s done his thing? I might take a look at Centuries too.
Good night from my corner of the world!
@sculptordwarf can you please acknowledge you’ve read the post this is replied to? I’d like to hear your thoughts afterword.
A replacement is needed.
@Marshal, @Katze, @Nightingale, @Trochilidae and @Amelia please respond if you’re able to replace in.
So here’s the VC from yesterday.
All three top wagons at EoD yesterday was town, meaning that scum was very active and constantly pushing, scum didn’t care how the vote went, or both. I want to look at what people have as reasoning for each vote.
Votes on Majora
Vulgard
Although this slot ended up voting Arctic at EoD and leaving it there, they were one of the first to vote up Majora and many others sheeped their reasonings on the vote. A summary of their reasoning:
Summary
Their reasoning can be boiled down to two points:
- A manufactured gimmick that appears to be an attempt to avoid playing the game
- Vibereads on behavior + claim
Personally I’m just lost - why is “they’re not helping” a valid reason to execute? Why is “they’re trying to be mysterious on purpose” a valid reason to wagon them? As pointed out repeatedly, this is NAI. And yet people just continuing to push this and eventually leading to a kill makes me think scum just went over to the fruit hanging right below eye level, reached out their hand, and plucked it right off the branch. At this time, though, I’ll chalk it up to a difference in philosophy and just leave it be, since many seem to share this sentiment for some reason .-.
(feel free to educate me on this during or after the game)
And people may say “well they didn’t end up posting much content,” but Vulgard’s first accusation came at post #922, which was only halfway into d1 and was at a point where a lot of people were slanking - why Majora specifically? Not to mention them pushing elsewhere briefly only to come back to Majora quite often (3 votes on majora total)
Little possibility of agenda on Vulgard only because they were the wagon-starter.
Leafia
The first vote on Majora that scuck on until EoD.
The extent of their explanations:
…ok?
Then an EoD that rushed onto Eli, to which they replied:
I feel like this attitude comes from town!Leafia; iirc they’re not one to explain their reads extensively, but the EoD attitude indicates towniness.
YouButWorse
Again with the weird reasoning! This is a reason for pressure but not an ultimate vote at EoD. However, to me Worse looks like they are genuinely trying to engage with Majora, and in the mindset of a flailing townie
Windward
Viberead + “they aren’t doing stuff”
Something that’s pretty transparent though:
As I argued previously, this may just be individuals reflecting similar behavior as town and scum, and Windward associating the behavior with scum only because they playing with them in a scum game. However, taking experiences from the last game and transferring it seems like a towny mindset.
PKR
Comes back EoD, with some readings, but they reaaaallly defend TL a lot in the process…
Nulltown from the behavior on Majora only, but their reasoning of “not TL” is kinda scummy IMO.
Centuries
Policy
…although I disagree with this, I think someone calling for a policy exe this early is inherently towny
Overall Thoughts
Most people that voted Majora was out of “they’re not contributing, therefore hiding scum,” with a policy of exe’ing a non-cooperative member definitely contributing. I’d like to question how the hell this went to a such a large wagon rather than staying at a pressure level - clearly some of the pushers were scum. Some individuals I find more townier than others, despite having the same viewpoints. The only one I’d say has any evidence of scumminess is Vulgard for them starting the wagon and constantly pushing it, but that in itself is a weak one.
Readlist of people mentioned above, in order
Just in the context of “who’s most likely scum based on majora vote”:
Town
Windward
Centuries
Youbutworse
Leafia
PKR
Vulgard
Scum
I meant to do this for Eli and myself but those parts aren’t finalized due to collegeapps
expect them by around the chess tournament tmrw
Going to sleep, you have the next 15 mins to ask any questions
fuck I just read this through and I’m missing Arctic
uuh ill add that tmrw with the other ones
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F.
This is going to be one of these game, isn’t it?
Fwiw I don’t think anyone other than Mistyx makes sense to be factional kill, but whatever, I won’t discuss it, since it’s speculative.
@Vulgard (since you are here)
Can you go into a bit more detail about Ami?
If wagons were V/V, then what was Ami’s motivation at EoD? To get a more powerful villager role out (that doesn’t feel really worth bringing the attention to them tbh).
I don’t usually like making TWTBAW reads, but here we are.