Did you know there are 100's of "social deduction" games? If not thousands!

#1

This is one misconception I wanted to bring up: I’ve seen some players ask ( or … rudely accuse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) why our game has similar gameplay elements of xx game: We are inspired by the original 1986 werewolf/mafia genre, now evolving into the genre today called social deduction with our own unique gameplay mechanics, story, and theme.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of the genre, originally played as a “real-life party game”, later split off into “tabletop style” or card games, among many other spinoffs.

You can learn more about some of the origins on Wikipedia:

Some other games of the genre include:

If you ever see someone claiming they are the first, they are over 30 years too late with an unlimited number of variations out there.

However, we ARE the first tabletop-style 3D social deduction game for PC, Mac and Linux that does not require a VR headset!.

Welcome to the awesome genre of social deduction! Now that you know, if someone says something silly like xx game did it first – you can now respond that, well, they did not do it 1st :smiley: although I’m sure every game of the genre has it’s own unique properties that makes them special!

We just may be the first medieval themed social deduction game: I wonder … does anyone know another?

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#2

Avalon is another :wink:

#3

sounds like the subcommunity of ToS that PewDiePie brought to the table.

But my question is, anyone know what the first genre-adaptation of Dmitry Davidoff’s Mafia was? Of course, yes it would likely still be a board game or something of the sort- since video games weren’t well, you know in the 80’s :stuck_out_tongue: popular, unless you count arcade games, I guess that counts- hey… IS THERE A… a social deduction arcade game? that would actually be pretty cool… but prob. not since it requires multiple people- I’m getting off-track.
And by adaptation, I mean widely-known. Like that people would group up to play like Dmitry’s. One that was recorded. Agh I’m rambling. The question stands: Does anyone know what the first adaptation of the original was?

#4

FTFY

#5

what about One Night Ultimate Vampire

and One Night Ultimate Alien

#6

Ultimate Werewolf Legacy HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE

#7

Good Cop Bad Cop, Bang, Coup, One Night Revolution, Ultimate Werewolf, Starcraft II Mafia

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#8

Salem(not “town of”), New Salem, Infected, Outlaws: Last Man Standing, Coup Rebellion G54, Space Station 13, Mush, Are You The Traitor?, Trouble in Terrorist Town, Human Punishment, Masquerade, Raise Your Goblets(Kinda), Sheriff of Nottingham(Kind Of), Bang The Dice Game, Spyfall, Spyfall 2

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#9

I could go on

#10

Ok, Salem, Salem2, Salem 3, Salem 4, Salem 5, Savant 6, BMG 7

#11

I don’t think any of those are real games except Salem which I already mentioned

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#12

Throne of Lies has a lot of things going for it –

  1. Medieval theme as Blade mentioned. This adds a unique flavor.

  2. Interesting day abilities. The day abilities in this PC environment can allow a lot of creative ideas to become reality. While the Alchemist’s Blur is removed for now, it added a unique effect not seen in any other games that I know of. These kinds of abilities can differentiate ToL from other social deduction games if done correctly.

  3. Enthusiastic community. While small, everyone obviously adores the game.

#13

Love how you provided links for camp cadaver and heist gone wrong but not ToS kek

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#14

Is it the rivality?

Conspiracy intensifies

#15

Nah, just a bit biased – We’re friends with Camp Cadaver and Heist Gone Wrong – we exchange mentions sometimes ;D it’s at the bottom of our Wikia’s “Social Deduction Partners”.

I tried reaching out my hand to “Secret Hitler” once during our Kickstarter and they “reported me to Kickstarter for spam”, lol. BMG I didn’t even try after I heard they are banning even mentions of us - pretty sure they don’t like us, since we seemed to have indirectly put them to work for updates :stuck_out_tongue: although if they DID ask, I’d be intrigued (it’d be good for business on both sides). We don’t hate them, by any means. We played ToS.

I reached out to Resistance and Epic Mafia before, but they never responded. I reached out to Deceit several times, but they flat out ignored me (that awkward moment when you get “read” receipts each time but not a response).

So weird about the social deduction genre – everyone is pretending they’re the first of the genre or something. As if cross promoting with another game “reveals” there are others. The genre is so niche that no one even knows about social deduction games – cross promo would help break that barrier.

That said, if anyone has connections to other social deduction communities, I encourage you to reach out to them and let them know we’re open to cross promotions of the same genre ~

^ I may start a new post with that last sentence

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#16

There’s someone named turdpile listed Tas a Duke in Discord. Not sure if it’s a coincidence, prank, or genuine, but one of the developer of ToS use Turdpile as their forum name. (They even make a flair in the forum after him)

#17

Yeah, I notice him too…

So I am so shocked and ask discord whether he is the true turdpile or what.

#18

Btw, he is not dev, he is mod .-.

#19

Turnpike is just a dude BMG hire to make their forums and stuff

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#20

Now that you actually have a game, they might be more willing to work with you. Before, it only really benefited ToL, but now you have an actual player base.