FAM Thread 1 (Day 1)

[Marshal]

you know what i have a secret mild >rand w read on marl but i’m not going to act on it at all because his posts are fun to look at

[Marshal]

kat on the otherhand can die asap

[Marluxion]

sounds good nya

[katze]

nya

[PokemonKidRyan]

PKR Basic Tierlist Reads

10
9
8 – Blizer, TL, Wazza, min
7 – Mist, Marl, Vulgard, gorta, Firekitten, Katze, Tangeld, Amelia, Whysper, astand
6 – Aelin, Kyo, Marshal, Nightingale, Joker, Wind, Arctic, Jane, Appel, eevee, Frost, Lukundo, Uni, Psyx, orange, Centuries, sulit, clonedcheese
5 – Solic, SDA, Emilia, Maximus, nutella
4 – Intensify, Italy, Silviu, Luxy, Ami
3 – Lemonfairy, Hippo
2 – Ici, GGhana
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[Marluxion]

i’m torn on nyakatze

[Nightingale]

new read acquired

OUTER POE
Nyarshal - felt good and natural in thread??? she’s totally capable of this in her normal-game wolfrange (other than a slight intangible tonal difference?), mashes are idk

[katze]

@PokemonKidRyan

2 – Ici, GGhana

nya?

[Marshal]

might be wolfing, im also repping a secret suspect read on katze but i don’t intend on pushing that atm, not until a few things resolve

[katze]

i feel like im pretty obviously a villager but go off

[orangeandblack5]

So people were asking vulgard about why his reads on kat and Ici have flip-flopped so much, and he gave the following answer:

@Vulgard

The reason I’ve been throwing kat and Ici around is that I’m historically pretty bad at inferring the alignments of people who wolfread me when I’m a villager, so I’m trying to evaluate in real time and it looks messy for that reason.

Let’s be real, if you all posted everything that went through your heads your thought processes would look similarly disjointed. I can be methodical if I want to be methodical but that’s not how I get the best results.

I thought this seemed super weird given I didn’t at all feel like he had been posting everything going through his head and decided to poke at that a bit

@orangeandblack5

@Vulgard

Let’s be real, if you all posted everything that went through your heads your thought processes would look similarly disjointed.

He then responded in a way that told me he really did not understand what I was getting at (@Vulgard what did you think I was saying anyways?)

@Vulgard

This isn’t really a discussion I want to be having right here and now because it’ll derail the thread, but yeah.

I was honestly ready to drop it there because I had him as one of my higher townreads but he pressed me for more details

@orangeandblack5

I think you misunderstood me but whatever

@Vulgard

You can always explain.

@orangeandblack5

well I was getting at the fact that I explicitly don’t think you’ve been super stream-of-consciousness at all

And it’s from here that I completely fail to see where Vulgard is coming from.

He starts off by claiming that he has indeed actually not been providing everything he thinks to the thread, which is basically admitting that I was spot-on in my analysis, but he pre-emptively defends this by saying that lying for the benefit of the town is sometimes good.

@Vulgard

@orangeandblack5

well I was getting at the fact that I explicitly don’t think you’ve been super stream-of-consciousness at all

I may or may not be filtering out all my tinfoils that would make people wolfread me even harder for having an incomprehensible POV.

Posturing as town to benefit the village is a real thing.

And while I don’t disagree with his point itself, in context it’s just bizarre. A few posts ago he was defending his wacky progression on kat/Ici for being stream-of-consciousness, and it kinda feels like after I called him out for doing not that he moved the goalposts and is now defending his wacky progression as being lying for the sake of the village. I asked him why he’d have said that in the first place if it wasn’t even true, and mentioned I’d find the filter-less stream easier to read in the long run:

@orangeandblack5

I agree with the premise but I just find it weird that, if you’re filtering things on purpose, and you know you’re doing that, you’d choose to say “oh if you guys had no filter you’d look weird too”

@orangeandblack5

frankly I’d prefer the incomprehensible stream because I don’t think you can effectively fake it over the long term so if you could stop self-filtering that’d be neat

And he just, like, acknowledged he lied about it and tried changing the topic

@Vulgard

@orangeandblack5

I agree with the premise but I just find it weird that, if you’re filtering things on purpose, and you know you’re doing that, you’d choose to say “oh if you guys had no filter you’d look weird too”

Meh.

You’re right, but. Ugh.

@Nightingale

Vulgard - idk anymore lul

Same.

@katze

“i assume you’re a villager but you’re also null and im going to talk to you like i know you’re a villager”

This is getting too complicated to explain.

I was weirded out so I kept pressing

@orangeandblack5

@Vulgard

Meh.

You’re right, but. Ugh.

so then why did you even go there

@Vulgard

I don’t know?

@Vulgard

I’ve been forced to talk about myself for half my ISO, this isn’t helping.

@orangeandblack5

yeah but that’s a hell of a stretch to go for if you’re purposefully filtering

And I was about ready to write this off but it was basically immediately after this that Vulgard, who has just spent the last several posts acknowledging that I am calling him out on lies he’s made, decides to revert to his yet-to-be-explained position of “orange wolf or bad”

@Vulgard

I’m currently trying to determine what part of my Orange wolfread is him being wolfy and what part is him not knowing how to play a mash.

Then again, he played FE Fates with me (which was a mash) when I was wolfing and he was pretty obviously town all game from my informed POV, and he dunked on wolves.

Personally I will lie a lot as town in some cases - see Catgirl Bomb Nightless for a great example. But the reason I had such strong townreads on Cellcat and to a lesser extent HissingTimeBomb were expressly because they had gone out of their way to call out things I had actually lied about as being lies. There are very few things that show somebody is genuinely trying to solve me than them calling me out on something I genuinely faked, doubly so if they’re the only person to do so, and to me it’s incredibly off-putting that Vulgard went through this whole song and dance just to go back to his prior stance with no evolution. I had to go shortly thereafter (and may I mention that biking in 110 degree heat sucks ass), but this response has been eating at me the whole time.

[Marluxion]

i could realistically see myself both neighborizing katze and also ita-ing them tomeowrrow

[Nightingale]

Mafia is an open-world game where you travel around and acquire collectibles known as “reads”
it’s especially feelsgood when you find an ultra-rare VILLAGERS read or PROBABLY JUST A WOLF read
gotta collect them all
nya

[PokemonKidRyan]

Tone within their posts.
Bare in mind these are my basic reads while I was skimming.
So they’re a summary of like 3500-ish posts (the thread)

[Frostwolf103]

So what is your point of the meta read?

[Marshal]

this is exactly what i’d say to that post in RWBY

[Marshal]

but go off

[orangeandblack5]

your thoughts on the game

I’m going to assume you gave them somewhere and will probably iso you for them in a bit

[an_gorta_pratai]

my internet is very shaky, so if I disappear that’s why

[orangeandblack5]

wait is gorta actually in the game

I thought that was a meme

isn’t he still blacklisted