Fighting "he could be fool" as scorned

So because sometimes BD act scummy there shouldnt be fool

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strawman alert

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You can also pretend to be fool And not BD acting scummy

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Not a strawman

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Actually by definition you just strawmanned

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I like fool
And need to follow

Isnt enough to make it unenjoyable

No I didnt

Thatā€™s a matter of opinion - the fact that it is antithetical to the point of the game and having wonky, adverse affects on the skill floor and ceiling is fact.

Yes Its matter of opinion

Skill is still included in game And meta helps with seeing fool play
Role isnt that usual And neither does have huge affect on game
either way Iā€™ve Played in games with or without fool And i enjoyed additional variety it adds Regardless of it I play game to enjoy it And not to make sure it follows certain set of rules

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Thatā€™s a matter of opinion - the fact that it is antithetical to the point of the game and having wonky, adverse affects on the skill floor and ceiling is fact

Clearly itā€™s not against the point of the game from the devā€™s perspective else it wouldnā€™t be there. But a very clear point of the game from an objective perspective is reading people (itā€™s called social deduction game after all), as long as you can theoretically read a fool he is not ā€œantitheticalā€.

Now of @Kirefitten @orangeandblack5 @Vandalay the latter is the only one doing more than bouncing soundwaves off the echochamber walls. orange literally just dismissed all 3 of my points by copy-pasting ā€œnot all variety is goodā€ 3 times, firekitten at least admitted she has no argument and apparently has no intention of making one

@orangeandblack5 if you have an actual scenario where fool is unreadable then feel free to share

Literally the poster child example

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/forum-of-lies-11-the-cult-the-alchemist-and-the-fool-win/17287?u=orangeandblack5

And donā€™t even try to say ā€œoh but thatā€™s FoLā€ because the exact same Fool strategy is even easier in ToL than FoL

One point

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Your thread is 2,400 posts long. Please post a hypothetical from ToL, feel free to illustrate the same fool strategy from your link very briefly

2,400 posts

Hereā€™s the Fool player

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Literally just doing nothing, not talking at all. You canā€™t read someone who just isnā€™t participating.

He claimed AFK, so you executed him and he won. But the way you deal with those players is to kick them from the game. AFK claims are not a fool-specific problem.

He did not merely claim afk

He was afk

And there is no kick option lol what

He was afk. So, kick him. Itā€™s FoL, the mod can make any option they want. He was either town and throwing (by being afk), evil and throwing (by being afk), or a fool and playing to win by pretending to be afk. So just assume heā€™s fool as opposed to a gamethrower. Gamethrowing isnā€™t a fool-specific problem.

@orangeandblack5 show him old reaper

ā€œDonā€™t argue FoL, argue ToLā€

ā€œItā€™s FoL so problem solvedā€

lolwut

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