[FM] Scales Of Justice (Rerolling in a new thread)

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#313

Tbh, I would still pick strongman to get doctor/cop follow the cop out of question.
It’s even more gamebreaking then any watcher scenario.

#314

Yes, i did admit watcher is the more effective pick if they have a godfather or strongman

I will concede that point
BUT that doesn’t make it strictly the best in every scenario.

we can choose to make the game fun by picking doctor and it ISNT even that much worse (like i was saying, it’s better in the case of ninja)

#315

Both scenarios can be broken by an rng kill on the watcher/doctor

#316

Yeah, it requires RNG and then still, town would have 2 more checked innocents by that point.

#317

I think if the scum are new or of medium experience they probably chose Strongman

But if you, Icibalus, Myself or another experienced scum is mafia, I want to believe they’d predict this scenario

#318

Okay guys, i want to say something important.

@Marluxion @eevee It’s not the time to talk about if setup is balanced or not, leave it to post-game discussion.

Your argument in nutshell:

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If you didn’t notice, you’re in endless loop that concludes nothing because picking right combination is pure RNG and talking about it when not even 1 Mafia flipped is pointless. If you’re Town, please hold your horses at once.

If you don’t want chessy game, the condition is: We’re not using “Follow the Cop” strat. Period

There is nothing “cheesy” about picking a role that is objectively better in more cases than others.

#319

Wait
I just thought of another BIG problem with your strategy

#320

Eevee, 1/9 times the random number will land on the watcher

Watcher can’t follow themself (as stated by bluestorm) meaning the watcher can’t learn the cop’s identity in that case

#321

I’m not and you are not pinging me scum.
Icibalus is other question.

Tho I still think that strongman is most obvious of all mafia choices and even some of us would pick it.

#322

You didn’t think of it first, I pointed it out in my strategy post as well.

#323

Yes, that’s why I asked if watcher can self-follow in the first way.

I have no solution for this 1/9th chance.

It’s a price to be paid for follow the cop without outing the cop.

#324

But the watcher is ONLY better in the follow the cop strat.
Doctor is better in every way if we aren’t using follow-the-cop

#325

Why not just go for doctor and avoid the risk entirely and play this out like normal

#326

Normal can be more fun for avarge players, but follow the cop is always more effective.

#327

UNLESS they have a ninja

#328

Objection!

Informations are much more beneficial than saving someone live. Because in 9p game, there is no good trades that Mafia can afford because they have only 2 members. I would always trade 1 Town for 1 Mafia how killed them easily.

#329

I can say “Unless they have a strongman”

Let’s stop using this ninja/strongman argument and look on avarge situation from now on.

#330

k whatever let’s stop arguing
if the strategy reveals that scum have a ninja, do not stop tunneling eevee unless you get an inno check on him.

/Vote Cop and Watcher

#331

do you agree to this

#332

I’m fine with being checked first.

I dunno if I won’t get power role myself, but then my strategy still stands.

also

/unvote vote 2