[FM] Shortnight - Game Thread - Day 2 - MARSHAL DEFAULT DANCE WINS TOWN GAMES POGGERS

@GGhana

Let’s hammer

@Arete vote dat ayayayy

ok

/vote SirDerpsALot

Lol gorta boutta hammer me

@an_gorta_pratai it’s your chance

I mean gorta is acting just like gorta did last game, You aren’t. You’re acting way more aggressively. Now I haven’t played enough with either of you to make an accurate meta read but I think just from gut (which is bad i know and cringe) I think it’s Derps

@Arete
@ChopChop

I’m gonna miss y’all

Carry the game for me

@an_gorta_pratai please dont hammer

we havent even gone through half the day, We shouldn’t even be putting joke votes tbh

/unvote

I think we should hammer gorta

I still have some things I want to say, I’d prefer if my group didn’t hammer yet

that said I’m late for class so I won’t be able to actually say them for a bit

Grr

Yeah Derps is Town.

I’m just repeating it so everyone else thinks the same as me.

The fact I have a Lock Town makes the game a lot easier. NGL.

I am awake. I am going to reread all thread and see if I can get more concrete reads. If u have any questions send em my way.

I apologize for yesterday, I dont want a pity party but shit wasnt good and I had no where to vent and took out my frustration here

I’m not as strung up on it, but to me theres still a bit of a logical gap here. Basically Arete called out out ghana 15 minutes into thread after ghana dropped this

Now theres been ten minutes after this post to the call out. And you like havent got word of a second thread by a new dm, havent been yelled at for posting in the thread that u thought was for group A, and got pinged day start. I think atp if u were still in thread and reading me and Arete u would have either already popped in or asked in ur classcard. There just seems to be no reason for like this I didnt know day started thing. I just dont get it.

This doesnt feel like right to me. It’s like right after

Sure I talked about a person other than setup but it just feels like a fast read after the last statement. Especially cause Arete is saying they hard read it. Might be reading too much into the last bit

So right after that we have another one. And I’m like theres 3 boats if logic, they genuinely have no idea if the setup, this is a RT after me calling out their first one, or this is digging deeper into the fake idk the setup bologna that I felt it was. It’s like it feels too fake for not only not to be after me and Arete not only told them to read the setup but they understood there were two groups and two lynches. Why would there be more than 2 in a 6p. And why would there be an option for a lynch wheres theres 0 scum present. It’s just like so many hoops u have to jump through to get to this.

These next statements come after me calling them out and I want u to read them all fully before I give my two sense

Basically goes on the hard defense immediately out the gate once I call it fake. Why is stupidity only a town tell. I told them multiple times that the derp read is a low player skill read. Essentially it’s a pitfall for newer/less experienced players to give people who are dumb TRs as people dont feel like reading them. Wazza is notorious for trying to derp clear him in setups and it works. The last quote in particular is just ignoring everything I told them.

Now this read. This read has and still baffles me. Like I thing the huge amount of question marks dont help it read better but the problem here. Is I’m not trying to clear them for it. The logic I’m putting across is they are trying to clear themselves with it as it’s a strat to do so. Look at Vanilla FM Wazza and Black Flag FM Magnus. Like even gghana isnt trying to get themselves cleared for it after I called them out their whole goal after I called em out was to just discredit the scumread for the Derps read saying why is it a towntell. So u saying ghana is >rand villager for that is just like baffling as that’s not the context at all

This is the post I send later about the Derps vote from all scum povs on group B side. I didnt want to post it til Gorta has content, but he still doesnt

So this is the whole interaction that leads to Derps and later Surge to the Dat Gorta World they keep talking bout. I said Derps was an idiot for wanting to vote early. And i have faulty reasoning on gghana. The first one i provided that i come wasnt the only one who opposed it. Sure i went in a more mean spirited route. But like u can draw the same conclusion from Gghana and Arete and he just doesnt. Next the faulty reasoning. Derps never once commented on the derp clear other than here and

Here. Like if its faulty reasoning why not say something. Maybe cause he dropped a tone read on gghana and thinks I’m tunneling. Maybe its he thinks ghana was genuine on their not knowing. So @SirDerpsAlot can u provide me an answer. What’s faulty on why I was pushing gghana.

Can u talk to me bout this. I have touched on ur previous touching on it. So let’s have a conversation

I felt that we both vanished. We both went to talking bout different things. Mainly cause I was having I wasnt doing well and didnt feel confident in any resds. I wanted to talk I just didnt have much time give and I apologize, just things kept getting pulled one way or another. I will have my reads at the bottom of this pile of word vomit.

I hate these two posts. They dont even feel scummy just like bad mannered especially after saying I will give it my all today. But this is a wallpost so people arent even gonna read it so theres prob no point anyway

Well overall here are my reads
GtoupA:
Me: in rolecard alone. My plays been shit, I hope to change like all of ur minds by the end of the day. I had a rough day and today i might be gone for a couple hours, but my plan is to do my best. If I’m lynched i apologize it was me doing bad prob not ur reads

Surge: Metawise he seems impeccable. Did a few things that litterally had me fuming. And I think his Dat gorta world makes no sense, but this feels like classic seth hard tunneling at least one villager.

Arete: if I were to just ignore surge, i think i would prob slap a townlean on Arete with the fact they talk to me about their few gghana posts that I dont like. But surge exists and seems town. Like a few things they said in the first 24 stood out. To me like questioning Derps on the gorta push before he posted which seemed great. That mixed with their Gorta questioning I really liked. But to me rivaled by deep wolf Arete paranoia (and I really dont want to follow in cheeses footsteps) that mixed with both the weird gghana reads they gave. And just like general I guess u would say subdued nature of them this game just has me like Arete wolf paranoid. This is why I usually drop nulls on Arete. As I been fooled by them oh so many times and I have a genuinely dont want to be wrong. Make fun of me all u want that this is HEDGE or like not coming to a great conclusion but we still have 24 hours to decide and for this read to evolve

Group B:
Derps: through all the shade being thrown constantly by him at me. Like this is prob the easiest of the three I can slap a townread on in this group. He seems invested and is actually an active member of thread even if it’s not my favorite content

Then we have the other two I scumread both

Gorta: has nothing and is just no posting his way through the first 24. Has he done this as both allignments sure. Is it like impossible to read him yes. And when it comes down to unreadable no posters I always scumread em as they are poe. He can dig himself up out of the trees but honestly I doubt it will change my mind. That mixed with Aretes case on him being a good point.

Ghana: I have a whole thing on why i think their opener is bad. After that they have one read on derps

Being this. Like they are super utr and to me scummy.

Tldr: please actually read this. I did this over an hour and a half on mobile. And I genuinely want thoughts on it

It’s already been 7 minutes but doesnt feel like it. I’m gonna get ready for my plans for the night but yeah I will be on and off a lot. Just get back to me when u can

Just something that came to my mind. But theirs a good way to thread read that I will try later tonight. Essentially u gotta remember that scum per group litterally needs to convince only like one other person that the other person is scum. Looking for buddying might help. Only problem with that thought process is like if the other group ain’t convinced it doesnt work as well

Plus now that I mention it they prob will be self concious of it