I’ll probably have a real argument when I’m out of school
The thought “I’ve done something, so it shouldn’t be able to countered” is… well interesting, but it’s not born of a balance perspective.
Conversion can ignore Protectives, aside from Drunk HH, Prince Jail, or King
so yeah, biggest way around it is to conver it.
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A lot of these “we have too much of this” just stems from it being a high power setup, which shouldn’t change.
Squire without dead immunity is just a worse class than whatever it would inherit and a joke. Acting like the added flexibility from whatever class dies night 1 (hopefully, or you get squat until night 2 and can finally do something night 3) It also infringes upon both current Priest and Hunter, one being backup and other being self protection at night.
Adding another BD class isn’t going to solve all apparent problems magically…
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Maybe we should just make it so that squire can change into a class instantly at the start of the night
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It’s almost as if that wouldn’t accomplish much more than just having that class spawn in the first place. 
Never said it did Solic
I understand the highpower in the setup
But if people are complaing about it, especially the swing, then bringing out the nerfbat seems appropiate
I feel like it’s a class that works better when games last longer (see SFoL 52).
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Thats the point atm
people want to make games longer by a day or so, and people are having issues with how swingy it is
therefore, Nerf Bat must come out, cause if we do Dota 2 logic, yeah that aint gonna end well for anyone lul.
I don’t share those opinions. How is it swingy and why is that a bad thing? Why is it a bad thing that games end early? Maybe that should be established first, before even thinking of changing something without direction.
People are arguing if its swingy
I was just saying my opinion what should be changed/nerfed if Swing is a problem atm
The games ending early has already been discussed to a degree, which is more incentive to lynch and kill abilities being activated early. I think the latter can reasonable be delayed if it really is so desired (if it’s optimal play, then players can just do it themselves with no restrictions). Lynching should always be encouraged, because no lynches suck in forum format over a long period of time and not mechanics getting you information.
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You must agree it’s swingy and that it’s a problem before even trying to look into solutions for it imo.
I’d like to have games a bit longer, but not because of less swing, but because of more backswing. But yeah, it’s not that of a problem. As long as we don’t have CFoLs ending so soon as EFoL 3 ^^
Massclaim D2 meta
Claiming “important bd class” for no reason meta
What else do we have?
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