FoL Feedback Thread

Does an SFoL mutate a regular FoL into a role madness game?

FoL is already a role madness game

what are you trying to say

you asked if Sfol turned FoL into a role madness game

and FoL is already a role madness game

Marshal, what do you think the average win %s should be for all factions?

depends on what you are talking about

Fol? regular FM?

Forum of lies specifically.

i personally think it should be 45/40/15 Bd/cultseen/nk

Hot take

rather than targeting specific winrates, we should target ā€˜if you play in a way that advances your win condition a certain amount, you should always/usually/sometimes/rarely/never winā€™

obviously with more nuance than that

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If you play incredibly well relative to everyone else, then you should win.

If everyone is playing in god mode, then it should be a fair fight.

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Inconveniently we donā€™t really have examples of NKs playing incredibly well relative to everyone else and not getting modkilled in the process

i think frost played fairly well in Fol25

but it was also lich fuckery so maybe hard to compare balance

He did fine D2= but not ā€˜incredibly well relative to everyone elseā€™

also lolLich

In any case, we are talking about skill level, not the actual mechanical advantages of the classes.

we could look for games where someone played exceptionally as a different faction

was there ever time where a single scum player carried a FoL?

We are getting off topic.

notā€¦ really.

social play still factors into the game and balance.

even if something is mechanically good in a vacuum, social play can change that

(see - setups being broken)

GeydePriestess did pretty well in FoL 20 IIRC?

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also playing NK is meaningfully different from playing scum

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Not really?