FoL Feedback Thread

[katze]

then whats the point of EFoL

its not like there’s a queue for EFoL games is there

[Geyde]

@Geyde

@Geyde

Variable between 3-4 depending on nk in question

@Geyde

The difference between 16p (widely considered scumsided) and 18p (last games have been strong town wins) is two players.
I want to make this clear before evaluating any problems.

@Geyde

2f1 replaced with strongman kill (or alternatively if both targets selected are same player, it’s strongman)?
Erad targeting both same player could be strongman?

@Geyde

Factional base ability
Once per game, a member of the scumfaction can perform the main killer’s killing ability instead of them, alongside their base action. They will still be seen visiting all targets they normally would, but will also visit the target of the kill.

I don’t think anyone really has any contentions with this?

[Geyde]

Official changes
Like stuff agreed upon by the team

[katze]

@Geyde

2f1 replaced with strongman kill (or alternatively if both targets selected are same player, it’s strongman)?
Erad targeting both same player could be strongman?

gives unseen 1 strongman max (i guess technically 2 with TS and enforcer exists, but unreliable) and cult theoretically unlimited

[Geyde]

@katze

gives unseen 1 strongman max (i guess technically 2 with TS and enforcer exists, but unreliable) and cult theoretically unlimited

It’s inherently a tradeoff to give up a double kill for a guaranteed single kill

[katze]

in practice that’ll probably never be a problem but does cult need unlimited strongmans when unseen only gets 1 99% of the time

[Geyde]

But I do get where you’re coming from
Being able to move around who does the main kill once should do the trick for cult (as long as it doesn’t subvert what could normally be done)

[Solic]

2-for-1 has to stay or BD killers turn too confirmable.

And yeah it being strongman, killing a NK is a problem. ^^

@Geyde

Factional base ability
Once per game, a member of the scumfaction can perform the main killer’s killing ability instead of them, alongside their base action. They will still be seen visiting all targets they normally would, but will also visit the target of the kill.

What is this supposed to accomplish? It also infringes on Acolyte/Arbalest a bit if I’m understanding it.

[Arete]

terrible idea:

make all scum kills strongman if you correctly guess the class of your target, if you submit a guess and it’s wrong the kill silently fails

(if you don’t submit a guess it would work as it does normally)

[Geyde]

@Solic

2-for-1 has to stay or BD killers turn too confirmable.

Uh
It does stay

@Solic

And yeah it being strongman, killing a NK is a problem. ^^

But only if they save it explicitly for nk AND double target the nk with 2f1

@Solic

What is this supposed to accomplish? It also infringes on Acolyte/Arbalest a bit if I’m understanding i

BD cheese strats like ‘guy was jailed and there were less kills than normal’ and ‘roleblock x player over and over’

[katze]

lets turn every scum killer into the mind flayer actually

[Solic]

It’s not like BD has such abundance of protection. This is going to hurt neutrals more.

Does strongman include strongwilled for that too?

[Geyde]

fuck nk btw

[Marshal]

*turn every player into the mind flayer

[Icibalus]

wow solic it’s almost like that’s my point for why NK’s existence makes buffing cultseen hard

[Geyde]

battle royale pog

[katze]

make FoL into a battle royale

everybody is an NK now

[Geyde]

Fortnite of Lies

[katze]

Forum of Fortnite sounds way worse and thus i want it

[Solic]

Neutrals were having the same effect in that statement.