FoL Feedback Thread

[DatBird]

How dos one change Fol not to be broken by massclaim while also keeping tol elements.

[Vulgard]

I think BD loses when it mass claims

[orangeandblack5]

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/mercenary-rework-for-forum-of-lies/62307?u=orangeandblack5

[anon97870008]

Uhhh Knight defend bypasses deathimmunity here too, right?

[Geyde]

Not all NKs have consistent workarounds for it, so no

[anon97870008]

Then… the NKs should get a consistent workaround?

[anon97870008]

Sorc doesn’t attack when the target is deathimmune/guarded, so he’s safe. Reaper resurrects himself. Poss throws others into the guard. Lich resurrects himself. Demon is immune when he uses Haemophilia, since he prevents the Knight.
I don’t see the problem?

[Geyde]

Lich dies permanently if only one phylactery
Demon’s basic attack can kill them

We could easily change knight to bypass night immunity, but that would tread on Hunter’s niche of doing the same.

[Arete]

It seems like perhaps it might be good if there were some way besides having the question randomly occur to you for people to find out these nowhere-listed differences between ToL and FoL.

[Geyde]

It’s listed on the card as the bypass isn’t present.

[anon97870008]

Wait… does Sorc not attack when he hits guard/deathimmune, or does he here?

[Geyde]

It says on the card

[Arete]

The Knight

Blue Dragon Killer
Armored (Passive) - Your first successful use of Defend will not kill you.
Defend (Night) - You will guard the target player tonight, giving your life to kill their attacker(s). - Infinite uses
Cold Steel (Night) - Choose a player to attack. If they are a member of the Blue Dragon, you will also take your own life. - Infinite uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

[anon97870008]

If it’s “not present”, I always assume it’s like in ToL and the info just got forgotten

[anon97870008]

@anon97870008

The Sorcerer

Neutral Killer
Mage Armor (Passive) - You are immune to death at night. In addition you are immune to bleeding and will be informed upon being bled.
Walking Bomb (Day) - Place a bomb on target player. - Infinite uses
Bomb Swap (Day) - Move a bomb from one player to another one. - Infinite uses
Magic Missile (Night) - Fire a magic missile at a player, killing them. - Infinite uses
Detonate (Night) - All players with a bomb active will explode bypassing death immunity. This does not count as a visit. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, Unseen, Cult and any neutrals that dare stand in your way.

Uhm?

[Geyde]

That’s a poor assumption to be made

[Geyde]

Not there = not present

I muffled by not reading the card before responding

[anon97870008]

And this is why stealth changes should be clear, and not just “it’s not on the class card, so you have to guess if it works like in ToL, if it doesn’t work at all, if it works like… uhm… like Solic thinks it works”…

[anon97870008]

That’s the only reasonable assumption in my eyes Sorry for using common sense

[anon97870008]

Because it’s LITERALLY THE SAME TEXT like in the ToL Class cards

But it works differently here.
Wtf?