FoL Feedback Thread

Does an SFoL mutate a regular FoL into a role madness game?

FoL is already a role madness game

what are you trying to say

you asked if Sfol turned FoL into a role madness game

and FoL is already a role madness game

Marshal, what do you think the average win %s should be for all factions?

depends on what you are talking about

Fol? regular FM?

Forum of lies specifically.

i personally think it should be 45/40/15 Bd/cultseen/nk

Hot take

rather than targeting specific winrates, we should target ā€˜if you play in a way that advances your win condition a certain amount, you should always/usually/sometimes/rarely/never win’

obviously with more nuance than that

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If you play incredibly well relative to everyone else, then you should win.

If everyone is playing in god mode, then it should be a fair fight.

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Inconveniently we don’t really have examples of NKs playing incredibly well relative to everyone else and not getting modkilled in the process

i think frost played fairly well in Fol25

but it was also lich fuckery so maybe hard to compare balance

He did fine D2= but not ā€˜incredibly well relative to everyone else’

also lolLich

In any case, we are talking about skill level, not the actual mechanical advantages of the classes.

we could look for games where someone played exceptionally as a different faction

was there ever time where a single scum player carried a FoL?

We are getting off topic.

not… really.

social play still factors into the game and balance.

even if something is mechanically good in a vacuum, social play can change that

(see - setups being broken)

GeydePriestess did pretty well in FoL 20 IIRC?

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also playing NK is meaningfully different from playing scum

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Not really?