[FoL] FoL 22 - The Blue Dragon and Scorned Win!

[Frostwolf103]

Yes I can see that, are you positive of Launchpad/Possessed/Alice being scum or is that just random?

[EndOfTheWorld]

I am not really sure about possed but other to is weird I am sure of alice tgough

[Frostwolf103]

What is so weird with Launchpad?

[EndOfTheWorld]

Ok i will get to this in a second gotta do chores first bbl

[EndOfTheWorld]

@Launchpad

@Possessed

@Mincinmind

Don’t worry Kape, I’ll screw up so much more

How so?

What are you hoping to get by asking that

@Launchpad

Look at the context.
It’s buddies talking to eachother

I just don’t see anything to get by asking it

@Launchpad

@Launchpad

Like Frost has consistency in their tone.
Whether they have this pride as a particular alignment is something I don’t know.

That’s why I’m asking you guys

I’m looking for answers here if anyone has Frost meta

@Launchpad

I want to lynch Possessed

@Launchpad

@Possessed

@Launchpad

I want to lynch Possessed

Gross my guy.

Any reason behind this?

You aren’t solving

@Launchpad

@Possessed

@Mincinmind

Don’t worry Kape, I’ll screw up so much more

How so?

@Possessed

@Launchpad

I’m just confused why you say it

I’m kinda confused why you brought the point up. Does it concern you?

@Possessed

@Launchpad

What are you hoping to get by asking that

An answer. Is that not why you ask questions?

@Possessed

@Launchpad

What kind of player is Frost

He’s usually pretty informative and prodding. Its early so ill reserve judgement, but I’m just trying to find out where everyone’s head is at early.

@Possessed

I mean, its not buddying in the sense of “They know something!”…I see it more at friendly buddying.

@Possessed

Frost meta hasn’t shown itself yet. Even still, I don’t advocate meta reads.

These questions are ass

@Launchpad

@Possessed

What is there to solve? I am solving just by interacting and examining interactions.

Does your idea of solving involve tunneling?

Solve by finding scum
None of your questions are helping solve, you’ve been putting a stopgap on my read of Frost, and you’re shadethrowing me for trying to solve

@Launchpad

@anon97870008

Why do you think so?

His questions don’t get useful reactions, they don’t lead anywhere, and they don’t have good intent.
Third quote is a shadethrow that doesn’t lead anywhere.

He asks questions that are seemingly helpful to assess the situation but in reality they don’t lead anywhere

@Launchpad

@Possessed

Id love for you to solve if you are the BD, but you come off very extra in your responses. Either you are a BD trying WAY to hard to get a lynch, or scum looking for ML.

I can’t even lynch you yet

@Launchpad

@Possessed

If Mincinmind is a new player to this format, he will generate genuine responses. Questions such as mine are meant to generate genuine responses and solve through interactions.

But your questions don’t have any oomph

@Launchpad

That’s not a question that gives any worthwhile responses

@Launchpad

Why a player is at a certain place in thread
Progression, purpose, etc

If your question can be easily answered and doesn’t create new directions, why as it

@Launchpad

I wouldn’t discount any other non-town

@Launchpad

Solve by finding scum
None of your questions are helping solve, you’ve been putting a stopgap on my read of Frost, and you’re shadethrowing me for trying to solve

@Launchpad

Nothing they are doing makes me lean more for groupscum over any other type

@Launchpad

Is there any reason for me to think that they are more likely to be groupscum than third party

@Launchpad

Baz’s confidence is obvtown

@Launchpad

Bazingaboy
That guy who called people Town off single posts

@Launchpad

@Alice

Also, EndOfTheWorld’s insisting that this is an Unseen game is sketchy as hell depending on the circumstances.

Pretty sure it’s fake since outing d1 in rolemadness is downright anti-town
I don’t think scum has the balls, but possible third party

@Launchpad

Town for effort
Holy fuck

@Launchpad

@EndOfTheWorld

I dont agree kido unseen want to give effort to look like town and she was trying to find if he is prince or not so i cant say i agree with you

Scum struggle hard to actually fakesolve without giving up too much information.

@Launchpad

If their progression is terrible, they can out themselves
If their reasoning doesn’t make sense in the context of the current thread placement, they out themselves

@Launchpad

@Alice

Disagree. We don’t know that they’re the MM. They claimed a neutral so there’s no chance they flip BD and a significant chance they actually flip Unseen. The Prince has better targets to jail than End for 3 nights straight.

MM is power scum
They aren’t going to do stupid shit to get themselves killed.

If EotW is groupscum they would be Assassin

@Launchpad

@Arete

I don’t read them as doing stupid stuff on purpose, I read them as a newbie who made a mistake and then made several more mistakes covering for the first one.

I agree, but if they are scum they are going for the ‘too scummy to be scum’ approach.
It’s pretty deliberate to claim fool

@Launchpad

I can see a world of them being neutral thinking they are exempt from being pressured because lolalch.
We shouldn’t pursue that notion though considering them being completely sure of Unseen.

@Launchpad

Agree
Alice is pretty pure so far

@Launchpad

I agreed with your conclusion
I then said Alice was pure

@Launchpad

Not lean.
All in all I’m locking them as town since gut

@Launchpad

@EndOfTheWorld

@Launchpad

They aren’t going to do stupid shit to get themselves killed.

Haha why would assasin do stupid bad thing sillyface laughs

Assassin has less responsibility to go deep than MM, ergo more likely to play risky.

@Launchpad

In case it is Fool.
False flips fuck up gamesolving

@Launchpad

We probably should focus on other players.

I think we gleaned all the associations we can get from EotW and they already have been openwolfing.

@Launchpad

He has posted though, so he’s been in thread. I’d just expect them to talk more.

@Launchpad

@JakeTheWolfie

What if you’re just a scorned Big think

This post is interesting and should be revisited later depending on flips

Look these posts doesnt make sensr and some of them look like unseen

[Frostwolf103]

Can you explain how some of his posts are scum AI?

In my eyes I do believe Launchpad have my attention for putting read on me even it’s NAI though aren’t exactly incorrect, he is right to question my motive that I speak like that in my opening post

[Kape]

Nothing like waking up to completely new reads than the day before.

@JakeTheWolfie can you name your top 3 of people to be investigated tonight and what results would you expect on those?

[Htm]

I don’t think other scum would think like that though

[EndOfTheWorld]

Look first he was so sure that possed was scum and told thwy are not solving for like no reasn then kept their read and was so confident which made me think he is unseen bevausw bd cant be that confident that early and started to give weirs reads like baz obvton or alice pure or arete town for big post then told i am assasin because i wpuld be more careful as mm but i clearly didnt know it was bad to claim neutral and I would do that as either role he think i knew what i was doing thwn told i am openwolf which i dont know what mean then started to push jack the low hangy fruit there

[EndOfTheWorld]

Ok frost i was anti bd but i like you as the tutorial guy so i will help yoı solve game

[EndOfTheWorld]

Frost boy where did you go dont give me bad feelins

[Possessed]

See: Every new player in this game can be made into an argument for LHF. They don’t understand what makes a scummy person look scummy.

EotW has made some VERY questionable moves: Open claiming Alchemist like this is a ToL game, saying they are MM, making scum accusations without reads mainly on people who push. Could an argument for EotW be LHF, too? Its another easy push supported by scum behavior.

@Alice Would you not agree with EotW being in the same category as Jake?

[Possessed]

I don’t want guys like Andrej and Gikkle to be able to slip through our fingers, but I have a focus on a vocal few.

[Frostwolf103]

I give you holler when I find contradiction, might be next day

[Possessed]

I’m getting a neut vibe from Frost. Not necessarily evil, but the lack of care doesn’t seem to translate to a BD game. Its as if Frost knows he’s acting weird but doesn’t care enough to change his behavior and its been a constant in his responses.

Frost isnt someone with “survive” as his wincon.

[Frostwolf103]

Excuse me though.

[Frostwolf103]

I find you have to wait a while longer before I pass with flying colors.

[Frostwolf103]

Maybe you haven’t figured out I don’t do extended D1 reads however I think I know what I am going to do.

[Possessed]

@Frostwolf103

I find you have to wait a while longer before I pass with flying colors.

Agree on this, which is why I’m not labeling you scum yet.

Its just the way your D1 responses were just seem…off. I know you don’t do extensive D1 reads, but you seem to care very little in this game based on your responses.

[Frostwolf103]

What do you think why Alice disagrees you with only mince and I while putting Wazza and Launch out of your redirect/occ/invest list?