[FoL] Forum of Lies 28 - ENDGAME - BD + Crus win (9/18)

[an_gorta_pratai]

Those are just the big ones, but I will get to whoever people think I should try later

[an_gorta_pratai]

My reads should get better later, but this is only d1.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I have enough to work a little bit on, but not enough to say something with that much confidence

[CRichard564]

@Chloe

@TheBlueElixir
@CRichard564

Out of curiosity, how do you two plan on reading Feathering and the other new player?

The same as i read other people. Speaking of which, I don’t think these two slots are starting group scum.
Their posts don’t show signs of being rehearsed, which should be there if either one of them were starting group scum.

[Alice]

I think your standards are a bit low here, tbh.

Feather has claimed that he has previous experience in FM and the other one doesn’t really seem to be interested to talk about their experience. Thinking Feather may be V for other reasons, tho.

[CRichard564]

Gorta is probably a townie here. I’ve noticed that Gorta is good at reading people as town, even though he isn’t good at expressing them in his posts.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Arete

Alright, I’m going to pull an Alice-in-Insurgency and post my pre-written wallpost on How To Not Lose For Dumb Reasons. (…hopefully this will go better than in Insurgency )

I think you could just say “don’t over rely on good players and just solve for yourself”

@TheBlueElixir

I did see my classcard before writing this but I came up with the ideas beforehand so ima go ahead and call it NAI

im gonna try to play this game a bit more separated from my slot. I have trouble distancing myself from it in the past, with my WiM and how I go about the game tied to how im read. I tend to also be a high poster to towncore myself.

I think I could play better with none of the above and Im going to try to do that

This opener feels off (I will say more about TBE later)

@Blizer

TBE is pinging me as scum trying to fit in and looks like hes pushing discussion forward. But, his response to Jane`s attempted reaction test on Merc contradicts what his earlier posts on stating him trying to push discussion more. Hes trying to look like hes town pushing discussion, but it feels hes making it slow, or has brought up discussions that should not be discussed.

This could be TBE’s new playstylen, but his opening posts did feel off

@TheBlueElixir

what was everyone’s last played game

what did you learn from it?

61.5
That over reliance on good players is bad and that we shouldn’t be as trusting

@katze

Because a player was miscleared. I’m not sure why Katze was cleared that match and people pretty much ignored Ans after he bussed CRich.

I said we were misclearing someone and pointed to Ans being the miscleared one, but no one agreed with me until it was too late.

@Jane

Uh… gambler’s fallacy dictates this is likely a Cult game.

Jane is a WOLF WOLF WOLF (JK, and that’s enough meme posting)

@katze

Also Jane would probably look worse FMPoV if this is an Unseen game.

I could see that

@Arete

…I don’t see a difference

is that bad

I think there is a difference, don’t know if it’s a good or bad difference

@Arete

or I guess a better question would be ‘what do you see as being the difference’

It’s his whole tone, it seems off, which could come from a different playstyle, but I won’t dismiss it as just a “change of playstyle”

@katze

Seth looks villagery so far, but w/e.

I thought the same thing about Seth in 61.5, but I won’t act like Seth is scum right now

@Feathering

While I don’t know how to read Alice much, her attitude during today seems Towny and from where I came from she’s been acting with Town motives and wanting Town to stay on track.

She can fake that

@TheBlueElixir

warning: its only going to have like 2 actual reads

post em anyway

@TheBlueElixir

I didn’t expect to be barraged by half the game for not putting an hour into readslist ISOs made an hour into the game because Im not progressing the game state while chat is abnormally slow so early

I think you could form some possible scum teams and get quite a few reads off of what’s available

@katze

All I have to say is “lolRT” and suddenly my allegedly disingenuousness read is all okay?

You do know I will have a hard time ever trusting you

@Marshal

nah arete might not have randed villager

It’s possible, but I think there is possibly a wolf between you and Arete.

@katze

Meh, I think you’re prob V tbh. You’re not really trying to go UTR with your reads and you’re taking better stances.

Stuff like this makes me conflicted over TBE

@Feathering

Null reads seem pointless.

They mostly are late game

@Mercenary

I believe Blue is LHF/new enough on FM that it can be passed over.

Blue is usually pretty towny out of the gate, but no so much here.

@Arete

like … it’s the sort of post you write when you’re scum and trying to pocket someone? if that makes sense?

They did make an entire post reading merc as town, read into that as you will. It’s a possibility

@katze

I… was kind of expecting people to call me out on doing a 180 on my read on him with little explanation? I can’t tell if my fake read was too convincing or if there’s something else going on?

It’s kind of expected from you Katze

@CRichard564

as I don’t think he’s faking annoyance here.

Annoyance can be faked

@Arete

how much of this is just that she’s scumreading you

Katze and Marshal are never W/W here

This wall post in particular is what I’'m talking about.

[TheBlueElixir]

oh yeah and feathering

@TheBlueElixir

Why do you think people know which people are your nulls is a bad thing?

@TheBlueElixir

@Feathering

If I share my Townleans and Scumleans then wouldn’t that just show my Nulls anyway?

this comes off as you don’t want people to know who your nulls are

answer these ^^^

@Feathering

I’m on about stating your nulls. Below your readlist post you stated that these players weren’t on there as they’re zeroposters, but in the same post you posted Nulls who had ‘Lowposts’ I don’t know why you couldn’t just categorize them in the same thing.

this isn’t an answer to my question

[CRichard564]

@Chloe

I think your standards are a bit low here, tbh.

Feather has claimed that he has previous experience in FM and the other one doesn’t really seem to be interested to talk about their experience. Thinking Feather may be V for other reasons, tho.

Has Feathering said which other Mafia games he’s played? I might have missed them. Let me see if he has.

[TheBlueElixir]

@Feathering

@Arete

have you played forum mafia before, or only faster games like ToL/ToS?

I’ve played FM before.

CRIch

[CRichard564]

That answers my question. Very well thanks TBE.

[TheBlueElixir]

read AtNoNames (admittedly short) ISO.

Some bits I liked but feels generally disconnected from the thread.

don’t like total

‘want more’

[Amelia]

I don’t think any of what AtNo has posted has included anything other than fluff

[TheBlueElixir]

can we call em ANN

or AtNo

NoName?

@No?

eh well id like to see their thoughts

[TheBlueElixir]

do you have any reads?

[Amelia]

In short

CRich/Seth/Blizer my top 3 TRs

AtNo and Jane are my lowest 2

[Amelia]

@Amelia

AtNo and Jane are my lowest 2

Lowest 2 SRs, lol amelia

[Marshal]

did everyone but me rand wolf

[Mercenary]

I usually avoid analyzing Marshal because I can’t deal with him but this post looks so bad.

[CRichard564]

Hi Merc, who are your town reads so far?
Your scum reads too if you don’t mind?

[Mercenary]

@Ami

tbe/feather w

ez game ez life

Is this a serious read?