Hidden whispers are a mechanic. We call it being neighbors, and it’s surprisingly common among evils.
in fact, its common enough that theres a town whose role is literally to see if any of these situations crop up
He’s not kidding. There’s literally a class that gets told how many neighboring evil pairs there are.
Stop treating me like I never plaied this.
I was reviewing this and plaied BotC like 15 times at least.
You don’t have to explain each rule to me.
What I’m saying is that 2-3 of evils know no claims and for them to know it, they would need to whisper with demon, right?
3 people randomly whispering to someone to get claim is suspicious.
Aka massclaim day 1 can easily eliminate minions.
And even if there was 1 neigbour to demon, we would know it’s possible due to Chef.
So if we have 3 minions, and all of them double-up with townies (none are sitting next to the Demon, none are the Spy, none are sitting next to the spy):
Since we had a massclaim, any Undertaker that exists will die or be poisoned, so we won’t be able to trust their info
This gives us 6 minion-townsfolk people we need to burn through
We start with 13 alive players (for instance, this is an example, sorry Maxwell)
The Demon can always kill outside the CC group
We lynch someone D1, the Demon kills someone N2, etc.
We do not actually have time to minion hunt and burn through all the CC’s
tl;dr: CCing as scum, even if it means you’ll die, is Fine Actually
im not explaining it to you im just explaining things 
yeah but even a chef’s result isnt entirely reliable, so its always possible regardless of their result, it just becomes more/less likely
It was the strangest victory I’ve ever gotten
if you’re aware of it why do you think mass claiming is so helpful
there are some claCOUGH COUGH RAVENKEEPERsses that are better off wiCOUGH COUGH UNDERTAKERthout claiming, because of the thrCOUGH COUGH SOLDIEReat they are to the demCOUGH COUGH MONKon
Excuse me, but arranging 3 pairs from which at least 1 is evil is way more information than half of this roles would ever do.
Demons should intentionally claim in-play roles to make themselves look like Minions
^not endorsed
I don’t really care if massclaim is good or not, I wanted to say that whispering is bad, but okay.
Don’t worry. Arete and I will be whispering people even though it looks really scummy to you 