Noble and Aristocrat Rework v3

So that it resolves at the same time as the Aristocrats equivalent making it nonconfirmable

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Is it good now?

Close enough

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I really don’t get why you insist you having blur in there

I couldn’t come up with anything else. And I don’t see the problem with it. It can be useful. I wouldn’t be opposed to another day ability though. Maybe crack could be split into 2 abilities, 1 for the reversal and one for the changing spy’s target

I thought we came up with Hypnotize

Aristocrat

Unseen Social
Passive 1: Royal Blood- During the election for a new king, votes for you count twice. This passive will be kept even if your class changes.
Passive 2: Private Matter - The unseen may talk to each other in a separate chat during the day while you are still alive. (Note: The unseen, cult, and prince chats should be changed so they are accessed and viewed in a separate chat tab.)

Day Ability 1: Spy - Receive the contents of all whispers to and from your target. Players will remain targeted by this until you change targets (Unlimited)
Day Ability 2: Crack - Reverse the state(not sure if this is the correct term.
By this I mean public/private) of information received by and sent from your target. (2 uses)

Night Ability 1: Hypnotize - Give your target the feedback from an ability of your choice. (Unlimited)
Night Ability 2: Recording - View your target’s chat history. Receive the feedback of all visiting abilities used on your target (3 uses)

This is what I want

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What about Apostle, because that’s half aristocrat/Illusionist

just curious it would be cool if it shared aristocrats passive.

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Sure why not?

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I removed hypnotize because it would be a better version of Herbalist’s drug(and herbalist could also be a few changes). If herbalist’s drug was removed/replaced then I would be fine with it.

I’ll create a separate thread for apostle. It would have the same passive(renamed of course)

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@Soulshade55r @NuclearBurrito here’s a draft of my apostle rework:

Apostle

Passive 1: Crimson Chant - Members of the cult may speak to each other in a separate chat during the day.

Passive 2: Placeholder

Night ability 1: Mind Warp(Uses: 3) - Cause your target to receive incorrect feedback from their abilities. Receive their night feedback

Night Ability 2: Eavesdrop(Uses: 2) - Receive the content of all public whispers tomorrow.

Day ability 1: Voice of Corax(Uses: 1) - Your next speech, whisper, or accusation of treason will be anonymous. You will appear as “Telepathy” to the court

Day ability 2: Not sure about this one. There are 2 options:

  • Mental Blur(Uses: 2)(It could be given to apostle instead of aristocrat) - Erase your target’s chat history. You will gain a copy of it

  • Shred(Uses: 1(VoC will be buffed to 2 uses)) - Erase your target’s journal and prevent them from writing in it further. You will gain a copy of it

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@NuclearBurrito I made an edit after I posted it so I’m not sure if you saw it, but which day ability should it have? And should it have another passive?

No dead interaction in ToL

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Shread should just make the Journal empty if they die (still gives you a copy)

No need to alert them immediately or force people to keep a copy in private notes just incase

Otherwise looks good

Just a note: Having it happen immedietly prevents them from copying their notes on trial, which gives evils an excuse for not having logs. And private notes prevents abilities like this, but your information won’t be shared to the court if you die. Maybe it could erase private notes as well, but that might be too much.

I know. That’s why I want to keep that aspect of the ability.

Definitely not. Private notes are the equivalent of an out of game notepad document

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Would this be better then:

Apostle

Passive 1: Crimson Chant - Members of the cult may speak to each other in a separate chat during the day.

Passive 2: Crimson Blood - During the election for the next king, votes for you will count twice. If you are sacrificed by the cult leader then each living cultist will gain this passive instead of gaining a main ability charge.

Night ability 1: Mind Warp(Uses: 3) - Cause your target to receive incorrect feedback from their abilities. Receive their night feedback

Night Ability 2: Eavesdrop(Uses: 2) - Receive the content of all public whispers tomorrow.

Day ability 1: Voice of Corax(Uses: 1) - Your next speech, whisper, or accusation of treason will be anonymous. You will appear as “Telepathy” to the court. Whispers, accusations of treason, and votes to and from you will be hidden from the court after your telepathy for the rest of the day.

Day ability 2: Mental Blur(Uses: 2)(It could be given to apostle instead of aristocrat) - Erase your target’s chat history. You will gain a copy of it

Meh. Why are you so obsessed with removing information that someone already has? Mental Blur sucks for a reason

Because it’s the only ability I thought of for apostle other than shred. Erasing journals is cool, but if I changed it to your suggestion then it wouldn’t fit the theme of the cult, which is converting not killing. And the concept is good, it just was executed poorly. Having it be a night ability and on an unique confirmable class is not a good idea