Prince rework Less powerful

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#141

Not my point. My point is that skilled players will win as a neutral killer right now. Imagine what will happen when average players can win 33% of the time as a nk. What’s the win rate of skilled players

#142

RNG number generator can be 1-3 and which one it lands on determins the win while the outcome would be 33.3% doesn’t make the game better or more fun.

#143

Balance is always about equal winrates. It’s in the definition.

However good game design is not always about balance. In fact balance is the least problematic thing to worry about at any given moment.

#144

but mafia isn’t a rng

#145

you could make it :slight_smile: would be balanced

#146

You can not take a non-balance issue and declare that it’s thus unbalanced.

#147

Yeah it would but no one would play it.

#148

Exactly.

#149

But tol isn’t a rng

And thus people will play

#150

Your metaphors are bad because you are saying a = b when it doesn’t

#151

While I don’t think making 33/33/33 is going to stop everyone from playing it, it surely brings the game down a lot.

#152

The only claim I made was that in order for NK to be perfectly balanced his winrate needs to be 33%

#153

Anything else is you extrapolating

#154

From my perspective.

Nk doesn’t need to be balanced then.

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#155

Correct.

#156

so are you on our side or do I go ahead and tell the sniper to take the shot

#157

Unseen/cult and BD should have same/Similar win ratio but nk shouldn’t be what you define as “balanced”

#158

Tell the sniper to take the shot. He’s aiming at my evil twin.

#159

Okay…

yells behind me TOM TAKE THE SHOT

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#160

I think there’s a slight difference between having complete balance and good design.

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