Prince rework Less powerful

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#101

Defeats the main point in NK.

#102

This is true

This doesn’t have to be

#103

The NK’s are not generic compared to each other right now despite having similar win rates.

#104

Why can’t that apply to the NK compared to the other factions? Being alone already makes it a very distinct experience

#105

yes because they are basically the same win condition.

#106

technically neutral killer is meant to balance the game

I’m playing devil’s advocate here

#107

All factions have the same wincondition.

“Destroy the other factions”

#108

And balancing the game does not itself exclude it from being balanced in it’s own right

#109

Doesn’t work that way. Neutral Killer needs to be in the game to balance the game. That’s why we all complained loudly about old sorcerer

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#110

Sorcrer wasn’t broken imo it was inq

#111

Inquis was broken too.

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#112

Sorc wasn’t broken

but NEUTRAL KILLER IS MEANT TO BALANCE THE GAME. Sorcerer winning with evils defeats the whole purpose

#113

I agree with soul but I’m pointing out flaws in his arguments

#114

Ok then how do YOU determine that a hypothetical situation where the BD, Cultseen and NK all have the same winrate isn’t balanced?

#115

Of course I have some flaws but I think nuclear thinks balance is just based of number win rates.

#116

I think it’s definitely balanced. However, what Soul and myself is arguing here is that there’s two things we need to consider in this instance. Fun and Balance. Most things that are balanced are fun. However I don’t think it’s fun for the other 14 people to lose a game 33% of the time due to mechanics alone.

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#117

This is true by definition

#118

it kind of is

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#119

And again I have presented said definition multiple times. And using your definition I come to the exact same conclusion for the exact same reasons.

#120

Me and Soul are using subjective reasoning to fight objective statements

We won’t win Soul

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