It would be great to have definitions in the op of the queue thread
from a cursory glance it seems to, at the very least, reference more aspects of FoL than SFoL 24, SFoL 34, SFol 36, or SFoL 46? in any case, my (possibly incorrect) understanding of what previously qualified as an SFoL was that it needed to have at least two of ‘a King,’ ‘conversion,’ and ‘high-power role-madness set-up’ (could be misremembering some of the details on the last one), and GI pretty unambiguously meets those criteria.
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If it has actually a King and a conversion faction, sure?
I wasn’t thinking tho that this was a given.
Especially since most classes are now town/mafia instead of BD/neutral/NK/cult, unseen or a similiar custom evil faction
We used to delete these classes, and told people to use fol mechanics or similiar, but thats not the case anymore since a long time
i think in practice they’re still all interchangable
decent example of this in practice (and the only good thing to come from this game that wasnt a meme) would be sfol56 “Cult 2.0” where all of the scum classes had their alignments changed to a ‘Cult 2.0’
and i think all of the town-aligned-but-not-BD classes were also changed to be BD
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tbh i think the biggest problem with the GI thread is the massive amount of classes that don’t have a class typing
theres like 20 different “X Italy” classes and probably 10 different "X FUCK"s
…i am guilty of this as well and should probably edit my past cards to compensate
although a few of them have passives that alleviate this
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Remember when we had “effort” as a rule for V2, so it doesn’t become a mess like V1 
yes
I think that’s a huge problem and there’s no ruling as a host for how to interperet this
like mind flayer has effects that use class type but what the fuck do you do with the classtype “italy”
like
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There is only one solution.
We have to tell Xblade that we should introduce the Italy classtype to Tol.
(I doubt that itll work, but I like that idea regardless 
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yeah i just fixed all of my prior classes (most were obvious enough or had a passive that said what they should appear as)
this is actually a thing that should be enforced though
consistent class typing unless there’s a very good reason not to have one (cant think of any but one prob exists)
probably an avoidance of classes like this
if theres at least no modifier to them
like i think this is fine
since it has something else on top of it
granted
these are already all in the OP
just not very much enforced
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the rules of the GI thread have never required a specific flavor
class 2 is Mafia-flavored
class 87 is town-flavored
there’s not, fundamentally, much of a difference between
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Kanye West
Blue Dragon Support
Fingers (Passive) - You are immune to the first attempt on your life.
Thank you Kanye, Very Cool! (Passive) - Your actions cannot be interrupted by occupiers, redirectors, etc. This passive is kept upon class change.Flame on Twitter (Day) - Remove a player’s immunities for the night because of your mob. - 2 Uses
Delay Album (Day) - Prevent all visits to yourself tonight at the cost of being unable to perform a night action. - 1 UseSteal Idea (Night) - Become the role of a dead non-unique Blue Dragon. - Infinite Uses
Defeat the scumfactions and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
and
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Kanye West
Town Support
Fingers (Passive) - You are immune to the first attempt on your life.
Thank you Kanye, Very Cool! (Passive) - Your actions cannot be interrupted by occupiers, redirectors, etc. This passive is kept upon class change.Flame on Twitter (Day) - Remove a player’s immunities for the night because of your mob. - 2 Uses
Delay Album (Day) - Prevent all visits to yourself tonight at the cost of being unable to perform a night action. - 1 UseSteal Idea (Night) - Become the role of a dead non-unique Town. - Infinite Uses
Defeat the scumfactions and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
but yes the class types thing is an issue
gi has always required a certain amount of trimming on the host’s part
if there are classes for which class types matter, the host is within their rights to remove funny class types
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i hope nobody is under the impression that GI is actually about following the rules absolutely to the letter
a host’s responsibility to hosting GI is to make it approximate something playable
Write down some definitions in the reviewer thread, give the reviewers some time to disagree/rewrite them, and then put it in the OP yourself.
That’s the usual way to go when you notice that the responsible people won’t do it themselves (cuz they rarely do, they still havent even given an updated list of who is reviewer, despite being asked multiple times publically and privatly)
the obvious ones:
FoL
SFoL
the fm gang:
vanilla - tested open / semi-open fm setups
standard - can mean a lot of things, but uses standard-ish roles
mishmash - mash but not beeg
mash - beeg mash
things I like:
bastard - explicitly bastard games
