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#221

SFoL 65 will have zero classes or factions that exist in FoL.
so i think that the current definition of SFoL is more liberal than you think.

#222

Your game is a direct successor of other sfols, so I don’t really think there should be a problem?
But yea, if it wouldnt have these predecessor sfols, there would be 0 reason to call it an sfol

#223

fair

#224

I have been tagging eevee, Ici and FK but they never respond properly:

#225

Would Homestuck’s two threads fall under uncommon mechanics?

#226

Yes, I would consider two threads a special.

#227

…well, I say we make a poll, because I want to vote YES to use your system.

#228

It would be great to have definitions in the op of the queue thread

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#229

from a cursory glance it seems to, at the very least, reference more aspects of FoL than SFoL 24, SFoL 34, SFol 36, or SFoL 46? in any case, my (possibly incorrect) understanding of what previously qualified as an SFoL was that it needed to have at least two of ‘a King,’ ‘conversion,’ and ‘high-power role-madness set-up’ (could be misremembering some of the details on the last one), and GI pretty unambiguously meets those criteria.

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#230

theres like 50 different VTs
and some negative utility roles

this is a joke for the record

#231

If it has actually a King and a conversion faction, sure?
I wasn’t thinking tho that this was a given.
Especially since most classes are now town/mafia instead of BD/neutral/NK/cult, unseen or a similiar custom evil faction

We used to delete these classes, and told people to use fol mechanics or similiar, but thats not the case anymore since a long time

#232

i think in practice they’re still all interchangable

decent example of this in practice (and the only good thing to come from this game that wasnt a meme) would be sfol56 “Cult 2.0” where all of the scum classes had their alignments changed to a ‘Cult 2.0’

and i think all of the town-aligned-but-not-BD classes were also changed to be BD

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#233

tbh i think the biggest problem with the GI thread is the massive amount of classes that don’t have a class typing

theres like 20 different “X Italy” classes and probably 10 different "X FUCK"s

…i am guilty of this as well and should probably edit my past cards to compensate

although a few of them have passives that alleviate this

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#234

Remember when we had “effort” as a rule for V2, so it doesn’t become a mess like V1 :joy:

#235

yes

I think that’s a huge problem and there’s no ruling as a host for how to interperet this

like mind flayer has effects that use class type but what the fuck do you do with the classtype “italy”

like

aaa

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#236

There is only one solution.
We have to tell Xblade that we should introduce the Italy classtype to Tol.
(I doubt that itll work, but I like that idea regardless :stuck_out_tongue: )

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#237

yeah i just fixed all of my prior classes (most were obvious enough or had a passive that said what they should appear as)

this is actually a thing that should be enforced though

consistent class typing unless there’s a very good reason not to have one (cant think of any but one prob exists)

probably an avoidance of classes like this

if theres at least no modifier to them

like i think this is fine

since it has something else on top of it

granted

these are already all in the OP

just not very much enforced

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#238

excuse me
i’ve been calling for better categorisation for months

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#239

the rules of the GI thread have never required a specific flavor

class 2 is Mafia-flavored

class 87 is town-flavored

there’s not, fundamentally, much of a difference between

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Kanye West

Blue Dragon Support

Fingers (Passive) - You are immune to the first attempt on your life.
Thank you Kanye, Very Cool! (Passive) - Your actions cannot be interrupted by occupiers, redirectors, etc. This passive is kept upon class change.

Flame on Twitter (Day) - Remove a player’s immunities for the night because of your mob. - 2 Uses
Delay Album (Day) - Prevent all visits to yourself tonight at the cost of being unable to perform a night action. - 1 Use

Steal Idea (Night) - Become the role of a dead non-unique Blue Dragon. - Infinite Uses

Defeat the scumfactions and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

and

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Kanye West

Town Support

Fingers (Passive) - You are immune to the first attempt on your life.
Thank you Kanye, Very Cool! (Passive) - Your actions cannot be interrupted by occupiers, redirectors, etc. This passive is kept upon class change.

Flame on Twitter (Day) - Remove a player’s immunities for the night because of your mob. - 2 Uses
Delay Album (Day) - Prevent all visits to yourself tonight at the cost of being unable to perform a night action. - 1 Use

Steal Idea (Night) - Become the role of a dead non-unique Town. - Infinite Uses

Defeat the scumfactions and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

but yes the class types thing is an issue

#240

gi has always required a certain amount of trimming on the host’s part
if there are classes for which class types matter, the host is within their rights to remove funny class types

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