I have like 3-4 hours to catch up. Yay.
I don’t like how gung ho you are on ATNo.
Then again I don’t exactly townread them (Lack of reading go whoosh)
@Zone_Q11 no I am not.
However, you know I would say this answer if I was town, neutral, mafia or anything under the moon.
I’m going to catch up even if you give me a recap but I would appreciate at least knowing your reasoning on ATNo.
Main reason: I don’t like his reads.
Secondary reason: His predecessor openwolved.
Alright that’s simple enough.
I’ll check out the predecessor at some point.
And ISO dive ATNo to get the reads
EOD1. Wind had 5 votes on her. Arctic is dead.
That leaves us with Jane, sulit, Mistyx, and Marl as her voters in chronological order.
I townread everyone who voted Wind.
I see Jane in his POE.
I see sulit being cleared for “being sulit” (i.e. consensus town) instead of her vote.
I see Mistyx in his POE.
I see him ignore Marl because he’s a high-poster, who he plans to resolve later.
–and I see myself in his POE.
Needless to say, I don’t like his reads.
I think you are missing the fact that we should have 3-4 wolves alive some of the POE has to be town no matter what. This is supposed to by a starting point for me only.
I’m fine with all other things you’ve said.
But like, I’m in the PoE too it seems.
Yet, just, let that be.
People scumread each other.
At the end of the day it’s not as if ATNo currently is holding influence enough to get you yeeted.
So don’t dislike it, just go with the flow.
…fair point. Still don’t like you though.
–also, 12v5 seems heavily scumsided if you think about Wind’s KP, so there’s probably 3 scum left.
Case on Marshal:
Is it kind of a coincidence that he SR derps, but TRs my slot for openwolving. I get everyone wants me dead because my slot openwolved (ahem Arete, Eli, Zone), but looking at that and thinking to yourself “hmm yeah thats a town” is an indicator of TMI. It’s also what Wind had in mind and they flipped wolf. Marshal’s read on Derps is a clusterfuck considering he wants him in the POE, but to not immediately yeet given the option (the other option being CFD to Zone).
I can’t tell this is real or not. I assume a joke
So after the night, Marshal still insist that Derps bussed Wind, but I don’t see a reason why they want to CFD a wolf to another wolf because they still have a scumteam of Wind/Derps/Zone/Marl, that you know doesn’t get pushed in the next couple of post. Instead they seem to be adding more and more people into the POE. To this day, I still haven’t gotten the answer as how Marshal managed to get those CFTWR reads.
Conclusion:
/vote Marshal
This is my go-to yeet for today. I don’t really think he is a villager at all and if he does flip wolf which is most likely FMPOV, there’s a lot of spews to go through.
Unfortunately: Townread.
I won’t forgive him for pressuring me to claim my ability, but given his D1 tunnel, I don’t think he is scum.
| Accused | Voters | Number |
|---|---|---|
| ATNoName | Zone_Q11, EliThePsycho, katze, an_gorta_pratai | 4/8 |
| EliThePsycho | Mistyx, Chloe, Marluxion | 3/8 |
| SirDerpsAlot | Marshal, Nightingale | 2/8 |
| Jane | SirDerpsAlot | 1/8 |
| katze | Arete | 1/8 |
| Marluxion | PokemonKidRyan | 1/8 |
| Marshal | ATNoName | 1/8 |
| Not Voting | Jane, sulit | 3 |
D2 ends at 2021-04-11T17:00:00Z.
Let’s be honest here, you still want me dead because of that one thing I can’t even control.
Without it, your argument boils down to “not enough effort” (Gorta) or just straight up “I don’t like you” (Zone).
For “not enough effort”, your definition of effort means the capability to case, make reads, and convince (based on context I have seen). This is something a powerwolf could easily do given enough experience and time. I’d like to remind you that Mafia can be played as a team game where you decide who to trust and who to not. While I’d originally want a game where after enough talking, we (town) all collectively (within seconds) yeet scum after scum, it’s clear you don’t want that or you don’t want to do that way.
For the “I don’t straight up like you”, no one even I can make everyone happy. You should know this and while I still think instinct is a good starting point, that being your sole reason is kinda of a 
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They have still not done what I’d expect them to do as a Villager, and I also doubt they’re going to do it when they get back.
The council of Jane rules this to be a fake post by Arete.
Given that Apprentice’s slot is currently the top wagon and they aren’t defending them, I think the back-track here is wolfy.
At EoD, instead of reading the top wagon, they skim the non-wolf sidewagon.
I believe this to be wolfy because several people were expressing concern that Derps could be Town, which they even responded to (but did not agree/disagree with):
They also tried to save Wind when they saw that their wagon was gaining traction, despite having nort ead either of them.
I think this is a thought a wolf is more likely to have, especially given that they think katze is wolfy. Also, if kat were a wolf, I think they could reasonably fake that “reactiontest”.
They believe the reasons why Chloe townreads kat are incorrect, but still do not push them.
Even though they have mechanical information that makes their only wolfread more likely to be a wolf, they do not do anything with it.
Keeping in mind that Arete only has 1 wolfread, I find this response very wolfy. They do not express the same concern as Chloe. This feels to me like “Hey look I scumread kat! I’m doing things!!” when they aren’t actually doing anything with it. This attitude is unlikely to come from a villager.
Like, even though they towncored 3 people that are consensus PoE (which should indicate that wolves are likely miscleared), they still refuse to push their only wolfread any further than ‘haha kat wolf’
It does not feel at all like Arete is actually trying to find wolves. Even when they find another plausible wolf, they don’t do anything with it.
Even if I take into consideration “Arete thinks Chloe’s read on katze is better than theirs and doesn’t want to push kat because of it”, they are still voting kat, so they don’t care enough about Chloe’s read on kat to vote someone else. They also said that the reasons Chloe is townreading kat for are NAI and are calling kat a wolf at every opportunity they get, which leads me to believe they just don’t want to look bad for actually pushing kat.
Who is my 3rd non-Gorta non-Villager read?
Find out on the next episode of Jane™.
But every time I try to convince myself Marshal is Town it feels very wrong.
