I currently think that atlas is villagerier than eli
I do not think arete and vulgard are w/w
I do not think blizer and vulgard are w/w (this one is more of a yolo)
who can vulgard be mafia with if these are true. Derpsā¦ sure, a hardbus after I already more or less bury him is plausible.
then uhā¦ Atlas? Eli?
Do either of those make sense as vulās partner? as wolves?
this is what iām going to try and figure out
I think thatās basically WifoM
I would vaguely expect the wolves to be split 2-1 in either direction for āgenerally townreading PKRā and āgenerally scumreading PKRā just because wolf teams in general are scared to all take the same line on contentious village slots
being part of the CFD to PKR is probably >rand V because the top wagon when the CFD happened was a village wagon that was comfortably in the lead and I think most wolves on this site wouldnāt want to draw attention to themselves that much
this doesnāt apply to the preexisting votes on him (so Vul and Marshal) since they were ā¦ already there ā¦ rather than CFDing
I think that if I had no meta on either of them I would completely agree but that Eli is villagerier relative to his meta (with Atlasās meta obviously being a huge null)
To be frank arete I think that all the words you wrote could be written by mafia
I think thereās a lot of stuff from vulās side that I would say is straight up out of the realm of w/w but Iām still not really convinced youāre a villager
I think thereās likely 1 mafia between you because of PoE and also because I wouldnāt realllllly expect you to flat out misread vulgard
For you two to be v/v would aaaaaaaalso require one of atlas or eli to be mafia
vote counts for reference (ignore the colors, I was trying to analyze wagon formations earlier and didnāt get anything useful)
While eliās content is better than I think heās ever done as wolf, and by a decently significant margin, heās sort ofā¦ stopped, after d1
thatās my biggest issue with the slot (or rather what makes it hardest for me to clear him), to be clear I donāt actually think itās that wolfy that heās dropped off in activity? But it also makes āeli tried really hard d1 to break his meta and then coasted for the rest of the gameā a lot more plausible.
I disagree with marl spew being good for eli ftr
I have an opinion but that opinion is that it doesnāt look great in either direction
what do you think of vulās āeli is spewedā read (moreso on what it means for vul and maybe eli, not reallly on if you agree becuase youāve sort of outlined that)
I think the read itself is NAI for him (itās not out of range in either direction)
>rand to be TMI if Vul is a wolf (Eli hasnāt really been coming under much in the way of pressure, and the specific way that Vul spent a long time shading Eli before taking him out of the PoE is more likely to come from a wolf whoās like āI want to miselim Eliā ānever mind people donāt want to go for it so I will instead performatively clear himā rather than a wolf whoās like āI want to bus Eliā ānever mind, people donāt want to go for it, instead of keeping him on the back burner and probably getting cred later for it I will reverse my read on him and tie us together even though my read wasnāt actually getting him killedā)
Iām trying to figure out how to express ādespite the fact that Marshal has the doctor thing going for her, the fact that sheās trying to claim Iām not out of my wolfrange yet is mildly concerning because Iāve been out of it for a while (not because of the Vul case) and sheās one of ~three players who should know thatā without it getting dismissed as OMGUS
Iām not going to cave to this, Iām going to take my time
I think your wall is not out of your wolfrange.
There are posts that I find good, quite a few of them, but I canāt say youāre out of range and I usually am able to do that.
(fwiw while the thread was down I did briefly try to entertain hypotheticals where the doc thing is fake and had a hard time coming up with non implausible ones, so itās probably just real. just. Iām nervous and given that thereās a nonzero chance I die today I donāt want to go down with anything on the record that she can use to argue āArete said Marissa locktown never kill!! trust aret!ā
No realistically if youāre town I think āmarissa should have found meā is fine enough but I think the angles youāve been taking arenāt specifically out of range? Itās tough because youāve replaced in d4 and the path if you are wolf is more or less laid out for you and the game itself is already pretty developed so itās hard to really look at your own independently developed reads and go āyep arete is straight up villagingā
however I also think you could be wolf trying to insinuate I should be v reading you so iām not particularly giving care to that concern at the moment 
itās also hard because the person you are 98% wolf on has also insisted they are obvious villager out of range obviously which makes this fun and sure wonāt lead to someone getting pissed at me postgame because I didnāt see their shining villageriness
to be fair Vul has also said that he totally understands how people find what heās doing wolfy
but whatevs
the topic of my solvingsystuff right now is eli the psycho because I think he fits into a few fringe-ish teams and ideally I can figure out if I can eliminate those fringe teams or seriously consider him as part of a PoE