Rwby fm - wolves win! at least it wasnt a ******* scumstomp

[Marshal]

i chopchopped my wolfpartners for towncred

[KyoDaz]

@Chloe

people who use the ChopChop method are 90% more likely to succeed tbh

oh god
I remember the game as scum where he came up with this and I tried to get people to use it

[Amelia]

oh that post was hilarious

[Arctic]

remember the game when seth

[Arete]

@Marshal

the biggest thing I want to know from arete is how specifically to avoid spewing myself as not w/w with villagers, because my plan was to look w/w with eli when it was me/eli on atlas and vul/atlas on eli, and that obviously didn’t work out.

What can i do better to not do that

I think this is inherently kind of a hard problem, because you can’t control what the villagers do, and sometimes you’re trying to look W/W with a villager and the villager turns around and does something that looks super unpartnery. With that being said, I think the biggest thing from your play in particular that made me think you were unpartnered with him was this post:

@Marshal

Do not shoot eli. Don’t do it.

If it’s between eli and derps you always choose derps

I already tried to outline this in the game thread but this is basically completely at odds with how I would expect a wolf to treat a W/W dichotomy where you don’t, fundamentally, actually care which wolf goes down (which you wouldn’t, since Marl was the Goon and Eli and Derps were otherwise in ~similar positions in the thread) – if Mist indeed shoots in Derps/Eli, it makes you look great in one case, and completely awful in the other case, and given that if they’re W/W you wouldn’t actually have a preference there would be relatively little reason for you to do it.

Marl also had a couple posts tying you together that I thought he probably wouldn’t make if you were W/W, that’s obviously not something you can really affect.

The last point I hesitate to mention, and I want to be clear that as much as possible, I tried to avoid consciously reasoning based on it, but you two got into a fight in the thread about whether or not to nightskip so that he didn’t have to replace out, and you then tried to angle-spew yourself it clear off of it, and I didn’t think that, as a wolf, you would deliberately cheat in order to spew yourself not W/W with a teammate. Some parts of this were things Eli did, but some parts of this were on you, so … don’t do that, in the future.

[Arete]

@Marluxion

does this include me since we never got to play together this game

@Nightingale

im fine getting feedback but I was terribly uninvested in the game so
nya

I wasn’t in the game concurrently with either of you so I don’t really have useful feedback.

Marl, I thought you did a good job emulating your town meta, but some of your spew was good for town in a way that it didn’t have to be – like, you kind of spewed yourself as bussing Derps, at least according to the people casing him. Getting tracked isn’t really your fault, I have no opinion on that.

[Blizer]

I wanna say give me feedback

but i kind also realize where i went wrong this game in terms of my progression and thought process (Along with reads and self voting and ate)

[DatBird]

i member

[Nightingale]

makes sense
nya

[Mistyx]

wait link this i wanna see it

[Arete]

I can’t tell if this is a request for feedback or not

[Blizer]

Take it as you will

[Marshal]

@Arete

The last point I hesitate to mention, and I want to be clear that as much as possible, I tried to avoid consciously reasoning based on it , but you two got into a fight in the thread about whether or not to nightskip so that he didn’t have to replace out, and you then tried to angle-spew yourself it clear off of it, and I didn’t think that, as a wolf, you would deliberately cheat in order to spew yourself not W/W with a teammate. Some parts of this were things Eli did, but some parts of this were on you, so … don’t do that, in the future.

yeah i made that post because it was very clear to me that that spewed us as not w/w

i shouldnt have made that post (I said so after i did it) but yeah i realized that a wolf eli is never genuinely concerned about me not nightskipping if i’m his partner so

[katze]

@Arete

Getting tracked isn’t really your fault, I have no opinion on that.

button clicked?

get good marl

[Hippolytus]

My lil bro asked me for some feedback from you

[min]

Gg

[min]

Game was kinda a vibe

[Centuries]

gg idk whatever

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

For the record, I still think that the idea Marshal tried to throw off the wolves by calling Derps the neighborizer and then killed the actual neighborizer on the night exactly after that is ridiculous, and that Marshal is just a villager who didn’t have TMI on who the wolves would be killing. This would be some insane level of theater for almost no gain, unless you think Marshal pre-planned this exactly for this moment to paint herself townie.

@Marshal Did you actually?

@Vulgard

Also, Marl was the weakest mafia role. Why would he push all Mafia PRs over himself, exclusively the mafia PRs, might I add? In that world, he decided to kill the PRs on his own team over even trying to kill a villager.

@Vulgard

The push on Derps made sense, because Derps wasn’t trying. Derps was the second weakest mafia role, and also, Derps wasn’t even going over. So, it was nice distancing, but you’re making me assume he also bussed the other two partners. With better roles.

This only makes sense if you assume that the mafia team knew the exact town PR composition on day two, and bussing the PRs was fine to send Marl deep. Which is an OK thing to assume, but it’s bad wolf strategy and I think Marl knows better than this.

I told you!!!

@Vulgard

I would say I’m OK with voting already, but I know it’s bad play. I’m gonna hear everybody out.

Marshal not dying in the night and Hippo dying instead, when Hippo said he had absolutely no idea who the Mafia were, is concerning. Hippo’s last suggested team was Eli and Arete, but I doubt he was killed for that.

I think Arete has been villagery both yesterday and today.

nnnnggghhhh.

@Vulgard

Marshal, Marshal, Marshal. It’s simple. Elementary, even. If you open your heart, your mind, nay - your very soul, the truth will come to you. Philosophers debated this question in the great forums of Athens, but even they were too closed-minded to understand the truth. The greatest thinkers of the modern era have grappled with this question. Hobbes, Locke, Descartes, Nietzche, Einstein, Watterson - all have buckled under the weight of the intellectual burden, because they too did not understand the truth.

My villager alignment is not something you learn - it’s something you already know.

LMAO
SHE DID KNOW

[Blizer]

@Vulgard

@Vulgard

Also, Marl was the weakest mafia role. Why would he push all Mafia PRs over himself, exclusively the mafia PRs, might I add? In that world, he decided to kill the PRs on his own team over even trying to kill a villager.

@Vulgard

The push on Derps made sense, because Derps wasn’t trying. Derps was the second weakest mafia role, and also, Derps wasn’t even going over. So, it was nice distancing, but you’re making me assume he also bussed the other two partners. With better roles.

This only makes sense if you assume that the mafia team knew the exact town PR composition on day two, and bussing the PRs was fine to send Marl deep. Which is an OK thing to assume, but it’s bad wolf strategy and I think Marl knows better than this.

I told you!!!

tbf

he did distance/setup on derps and marshal

only slot he really defended was Atlas and PKR tbh