the relevant info here
I think it says something that she did jump off the wagon and called me a bad towny at the end there
For that matter, I will also believe almost anything everyone else says about you, too, and there’s a consensus that you’re a wolf. The only one who didn’t say outright that you’re a wolf is Kiro because he openwolfed himself already. He doesn’t want us taking a chance and voting to exe you D3 because since Kiro is a guaranteed wolf, if we get it right and exed you today, we’d win for sure.
I actually thought maybe you’d hammer Kiro to end this discussion and get me out of the game sooner, but I see you’re using your time constructively to attempt a last effort to persuade Worse and me that you’re not scum and Arctic is. You’re testing to see which of us is the most pliable right now. I’m not budging so you’re saying I’m in confbias. Worse says he’s confident but asked about the Appel vote, meaning you’re much more likely right now to kill me tonight and keep Worse alive to continue trying to persuade him to side with you. It’s dangerous to keep this day going, but I’m not in the mood to hammer and I’ll let Arctic do it if he wants when he comes back online.
No, I’m very convinced you’re trying to reason with me because:
- you’re testing whether I’m easier to sway than Worse;
- the more time you have, the more cases you’re going to pull out of a hat against Arctic;
- if you can make me doubt that you’re a wolf, it may also change Worse’s opinion because right now, I’m the one with the strongest opinion and also considered the most trustworthy.
The next most trustworthy player here is Arctic, which is why you’re framing him and not Worse.
But it’s just as easy (or even easier) to admit you pushed Appel because she was your agenda push, just like how Arctic is your agenda push. I mean, Arctic isn’t even hard pushing you. He made his read, said the Gorta/Kiro scumteam makes perfect sense, and that’s basically it. I know for a fact Arctic isn’t dying tonight since you’re pushing on him to leave him as a suspect, which tells me you’re entirely grasping at straws now because you ended up in a bad situation with an outed wolf, a heavily suspected wolf, and two players who can essentially command the court. With Arctic and me both still in the game, it’s a worst-case scenario for you and you have to choose which one of us to frame and which one to kill.
Of course you think it says something. Considering she didn’t flip wolf, she was admitting she didn’t have a confident read because people make mistakes. It’s NAI for her and it’s also NAI for you.
Honestly. If Arctic actually were a wolf he’d more or less deserve to win at this point because of his plays, but I just can’t see it. If I try to scumread everything he’s done, it seems NAI at best without any obvious slips. If I try to scumread you, it’s much scummier than NAI with plenty of slips. And because Kiro openwolfed, you’re the only one left to agenda push. I don’t think Kiro would necessarily have openwolfed if he didn’t have a strong pusher to carry the game, and right now Arctic isn’t doing much pushing. I haven’t seen him push since his push on me.
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Literally right now it’s just wolfwolfwolf from you because you’re trying so hard to defend yourself by accusing Arctic.
I also strongly trust what Cloned said about lynching you if Appel flipped town. Cloned has more experience so if he thought that one of you flipping town meant the other was wolf, then he’s likely correct.
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He also went in with me on the tunneling Arete train in Corrupt votes and thought Silviu was a wolf d1 and expressed disbelief in his reads over an over again here this game.
See, it’s not just my opinion that you’re a wolf. Cloned thought you were a wolf, Appel thought you were a wolf, Arctic thinks you’re a wolf, Worse thinks you’re a wolf, and Kiro called you an idiot lol.
And yes, I read that, but tbh just from reading the whole first day I also would have thought Silviu was a wolf from the way he derailed the conversation…
@YoubutWorse @WindwardAway if Arctic hammers I want both of y’all to think about things and try to re-evaluate things. I can prove with town and scum games so that people can check out my playstyle as town and scum
I feel like you really have TMI if you’re framing Arctic, btw.
I could have been bluffing this entire game about being a tracker because the only tracking I claimed to have done was tracking Cloned N1. I knew there was like a 90% chance he was going to take his night action on me so I could have simply lied about being a PR, faked the track, and then “baited” Kiro so that he’d say he was on me so I could bus him, while not actually being a PR myself in the first place.
You never considered a world in which this was possible, but I know Worse and Arctic both said if I actually turned out to be scum it would be GGs. You didn’t consider this at all, and went to pushing on Arctic instead of me. You could have made my entire history of claiming invalid by ISOing me, but you haven’t and you conveniently assumed that I really was a town PR.
So either you know I’m a tracker because Kiro rolechecked me, or you always knew at the very least I wouldn’t be a non-PR scum because you’re the one who’s scum.
Anyway, hey town, there’s your answer. Once we lynch Kiro, if he flips rolecop, Gorta is scum for TMI.
i.e. Kiro checked Arctic, found him VT. Kiro checked me and also attacked me so I wouldn’t track him visiting two separate people, found me tracker.
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Kiro didn’t check Cloned N1; I think he really did check Arctic because he wouldn’t have claimed to be a protective PR in the first place if he knew Cloned was one.
Alternatively, if Kiro’s an odd-night rolecop, he checked Arctic and found him VT, but he knows Gorta is his teammate, he knows I claimed investigative with no CC, and Worse never acted like a PR so he’s unquestionably VT. In that case, Kiro couldn’t have taken a PR action N2 and so he attacked me to cover so it would look like he was able to protect every night as opposed to having a watered-down investigative role like I do.
Also, here’s another reminder that Kiro was trying to vote people on D1 and D2 who were not being wagoned, and Arctic was completely abstaining, so just logically, the other wolf had to be pushing/jumping on the wagons. The players who were voting on wagons were Cloned, Gorta, Worse, and me.
Summary of opinions I’ve read during D3:
Me: it has to be Gorta (but lol imagine if it were Arctic)
Arctic: it has to be Gorta (but lol imagine if it were Wind)
Worse: it has to be Gorta (but lol imagine if it were Wind or Arctic)
Gorta: it has to be Arctic.
hello, agenda push.
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Message to check that I’m here … I love my pokemon
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jigglypuff
But I like to imagine it’s a black raquaza
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show me buddy
but everyone has been sussing you
it made no sense to go for YBW if i was actually a wolf