[SFM] Newbie-Friendly Pokèmon 9er - Town Win

I think I covered everything I had to add to the discussion

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@kiromishiro21 are you here

why did you kill min n1
he townread you and nullread your teammate

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actually yeah I forgot about the kill on min, probably wouldve been better to kill cloned or wind instead of them

i think you guys need to update the player list a bit

@an_gorta_pratai respond to my ISO on you

I get the feeling he doesn’t want to respond to that lol

I have a crap ton of stuff to reply to, but I will get to it

That’s because you are so far up a tunnel that it’s not even funny. You can only see anything I do as scummy.

Or maybe I am not a damn wolf and am trying to convince you and Worse so that we can get a town win.

I am trying to reason with you in a way. I want to get a town win here and we don’t get that if you follow the obvious wolf Arctic

Stop with the damn confbias. Just look at what you are posting, you are not giving me a fair chance to defend myself. You aren’t listening to me unbiased

My playstyle is much scummier than most and I have made mistakes in the past as town

Because Arctic is the damn wolf in this situation and we are about to lose another town game because you are so oblivious to the obvious

Everyone thought I was a wolf and that the actual wolf was town in a few games.

I am just saying that even Cheese doubted his own reads

The thing is I am trusting you because I liked how you handled d2 with that PR conflict. If you were faking it you would have to be damn lucky in your guessing or a mafia tracker who tracked Cloned. If you were a mafia tracker you would have pushed Cloned more.

This tunnel will be the end of town

Why are you pushing tinfoils?

just because everyone says it that doesn’t make it right

I will

You could have tried to appeal to me knowing I was a townie

THEN THE TOWN JUST LOSES

This hasn’t been my best game, but I am not a damn wolf, but it seems the mafia will win because they will believe anything you say

You are pushing agenda right now

I was sleeping

Stop projecting your own crap on me

[quote=“an_gorta_pratai, post:2288, topic:84748”]

what? are you actually going to or not?
the fact that you don’t actually have a quote for this at the ready just shows that you made it up and had no evidence for it

and the main thing i wanted you to respond to was your explanation for why you voted silviu to save yourself even when you said earlier you wouldn’t vote silviu even if it meant you died

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Absolutely not true. I already gave you my take on a nullread on you. I haven’t scumread you for most of the game so I’m not tunnelling you, but what you’re doing right now is very wolfy.

Since when was he an obvious wolf? You didn’t even scumread him until you looked like the next lynch after Kiro lol.

That’s pretty hard to do when you’ve been boxed in and you’re running out of defenses. I tried to believe that all the “mistakes” you made in this game were just due to being sucky town, but that’s not true. You had your chance and now you’re the next lynch target. Why are you lecturing me about it, anyway, if I’m going to die tonight?

But repeating the same excuses over and over again, and not improving your play at all in this game means that you’re doing it on purpose. You’re experienced enough that I don’t think you’re throwing the game; you’re just wolfing out of desperation because you’re still trying to win when the rest of us now scumread you.

You’ve literally said this so many times it isn’t even worth responding to.

And yet, you say you’re confident in your reads because you do gut reads, but you conveniently “misread” Silviu, you “misread” Appel, you had very little commentary on Kiro, and now you’re going to “misread” Arctic?

Not true. I would have either killed Kiro if I thought he was a real healer, or I would have killed someone outside of the protective chain. There’s been nobody around to track me, so I could have done whatever I wanted. I wouldn’t have pushed another PR right away even if I were a wolf.

It will be the end of the game, I can say that much.

It also doesn’t make it wrong.

Here we go with the caps lock again…

If any of you feel like hammering 15 minutes early, go ahead and we can end this pointless discussion lol.

i wanna vote for once lol

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i’ll wait though

I also find it noteworthy that you didn’t push Arctic right at the start of the day, Gorta. You waited till lynching Kiro was a surefire thing and then you started agenda pushing ahead of D4. If you really wanted us to vote out Arctic, you would have given us an explanation of why Arctic/Kiro would be a wolf pair right away.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I’m not about to let you convince me to vote Arctic just because you insist on pushing him as a “damn wolf”. If I was willing to excuse your kind of scummy pushes and votes before, I’m not willing to excuse it any more because that would be a loss for town. Well played.

And from my POV, if Arctic actually were a wolf who had made no scummy plays, then he deserves the win, fair and square, because that would mean you just did a really sloppy job of being a townie and essentially threw the game.

As I said, you’re experienced, so I just can’t believe you’d make consistently bad town plays at this point. You have a technique of using your genuine sloppy town plays as an excuse for “sloppy town plays” as a wolf, which is a good cover to hide under, but it only lasts for so long.

You probably told Kiro to say that

I DIDN’T KNOW I COULD UNVOTE

THAT WAS A D2 READ

I GAVE APPEL MY READLIST AND SHE STILL ASKED FOR IT, SO I THOUGHT SHE WAS SHADING ME

READS CAN CHANGE

This right here is the absolute worst excuse I’ve ever heard, and also completely contradicts all of your earlier statements that:

  1. you voted Silviu because you trusted Cloned more than you trusted yourself,
  2. you voted Silviu because you thought you’d be tied for RNG lynching,
  3. you regretted not just unvoting

All three of which are completely different reasons, and now you’ve given us a fourth.

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what

what x2
you, an experienced player of forum mafia, didn’t know you could unvote on day 1?

i know that, but you said that appel had been acting scummy the entire game, yet you also said on D1 you townread her. so she couldn’t have been acting scumy the entire game unless you lied about your D1 read

scumslip 100

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