SFoL 64 - Anonymous FoL - Day 6 - The Possessor, Inquisitor, and Fool are victorious!

[Thomas_The_Second]

No, your case is literally the one with a faulty PoV.

Assuming that I vig myself here. I flip BD, then who is the NK/CL?

[Thomas_The_Second]

n3 wasn’t on an obv BD. n4 was dumb since I barely read d3 so I didn’t realize that Alice was SF’d.

[Sarah_Lacey]

@Thomas_The_Second

If I don’t flip NK, which I won’t

Nice grammar
Caught scum
Dybu dabu

[Sarah_Lacey]

@Thomas_The_Second

n4 was dumb

My point is that it was dumb

i did my fair share of that this game but shhh

[Thomas_The_Second]

I literally posted only 20 times then.

Also my reads have been extremely congruent to my checks such as slotting Alice/Edmond as my top trs after I WoW’d them and whatnot.

[Sarah_Lacey]

@Thomas_The_Second

Assuming that I vig myself here. I flip BD, then who is the NK/CL?

1. What rhe fuck does “vig myself” mean
2. Thats exactly what we’re discussing here - you dont flip BD
   Why do you keep assuming you do? You dont.

[Thomas_The_Second]

As in, theoretical scenario where I get modpeeked somehow. I will be modpeeked BD.

Who would be the CL/NK here?

[Sarah_Lacey]

@Thomas_The_Second

I will be modpeeked BD.

Who would be the CL/NK here?

???

Are you sure you’re ok buddy

We’re debating whether or not you’re NK here
I say you are and that you dont flip NK
“Oh but what if i flip BD” is not a valid argument

Come prepared with better reasoning next time.

[Sarah_Lacey]

@Sarah_Lacey

you dont flip NK

*BD

[Thomas_The_Second]

Then why tf did you bring up Alice as a potential NK candidate as deepwolf paranoia?

[Sarah_Lacey]

That was
15 hours ago
When my brain had yet to start working it seems
Also it was before i fully understood your claim - alice cannot be NK, because that would make you good and your results a contradiction

[Alice_Alard]

sleep
needed

i need sleep

I’ll be back in the morning

Don’t kill eachother while I’m gone. Thanks.

[Sarah_Lacey]

Basically Thomas is coming into a murder trial and saying “suppose God comes down and says Im not the killer - what are you gonna do”

First, they arent really defending themselves, more of pressing their point continuously.

Secondly, the point is to debate whether God will come down to clear you - it’s not up to you to adamantly insist you will be modflipped BD

Thus I believe Thomas has just proven himself to be the guilty party trying to weasel out somehow ny shifting blame.

I rest my case.

time for kirby weee

[Thomas_The_Second]

So.

For cult conversions we’re basically looking at.

Helen - Starting Rit
Sarah/Mary - Starting Cabalist
Emma - N1 Convert
Geof - N3 Convert.

Ideally we doink the Starting Cabalist first since tonight is a convert night, and hope that the NK doesn’t auto-win in the F3.

Sarah and Mary both have pretty much no interactions with Helen/Emma/Geof.

[Thomas_The_Second]

No, I was pointing out how you were putting Alice as a deepwolf candidate on the conditional that I flipped BD, which you know that I have a good chance of flipping since you’re hunting for only 1 of the NK/CL.

This is a textbook case of a wolf trying to expand the PoE.

[Thomas_The_Second]

@Emma_Maison

Town:

Ivo
Nicolas
Alice
Edmond

Townlean:

Mary

Mafia lean:

Helen

Mafia:

Andy
Alan

I need to put more people in my town circle. Going to read Gilbert again.
My read on Thomas 2 is still pending. Obviously, it’s a better slot now than back when Thomas 1 was running rampant, at least.

@Emma_Maison

I forgot to put Geoffrey in mafia leans.

Town:

Ivo
Nicolas
Alice
Edmond

Townlean:

Mary (dissipating)

Mafia lean:

Helen

Geoffrey

Mafia:

Andy
Alan

Both time Emma puts Mary as a TL and forgets Sarah exists. Eh, Mary’s probably more likely the CL here as wolves don’t forget their partners so easily like this.

[Thomas_The_Second]

@Emma_Maison

And really, please look at Sarah. I feel like I’m the only player looking at her except maybe Thomas.

Hmm…

[Thomas_The_Second]

@Emma_Maison

@Jane_Drayton

@ Mary_Savill

Can we get some of your read over here?

Outside of Sarah/Gilbert/Andy.

@Jane_Drayton

Jane_Drayton

Ivo_Wake
Alan_Atlee
Thomas_Scott
Susan_Ailemer
Emma_Maison

Sarah_Lacey
Edmond_Bailey
Andy_Bernard
Lucy_Wrenne
Geoffrey_Bailey
Mary_Savill
Alice_Alard
Nicolas_Adams
Gilbert_Lovell

Isabel_Savage (slight slight scum read)
Helen_Harte
Peter_Carew

@Jane_Drayton

@Mary_Savill

Sure thing. Currently I see Alice as a small W-Lean. Partly because they were Wolfleaning me and because of their opener.

So are you saying that you OMGUS him/her?

@Jane_Drayton

@Mary_Savill

Ivo seems to be a productive Town and by extension they make me believe that Emma is also Town.

Without Ivo’s opinion and such, what will your opinion on Emma be?

@Jane_Drayton

@ Mary_Savill

Can you post more stuff once you came online?

@Jane_Drayton

@ Mary_Savill Uh, quick, provide a defence.

@Jane_Drayton

Lynching Mary is never the play here ._.

@Jane_Drayton

@Mary_Savill

wrong way around. I’m assuming you did Magical Barrier, but I’m sus since you didn’t use Ice Ward.

Ehhh, if I am CW, I wouldn’t just waste my ice ward randomly on someone else, especially on N1 and if it only have 2 uses.

But anyway, Andy could go both way here tbh.

@Jane_Drayton

Jesus christ, he is at l-1 right now if I calculate it correctly.

@ Mary_Savill

Unvote please.

@Jane_Drayton

Mary Savil checked them.

@Jane_Drayton

@Peter_Carew

Jane is the convert

they bountied Helen N1 but didn’t out it because lolconvert

Uh, not sure how did you reach that conclusion over there.

@Peter_Carew

Mary is CL

If Mary were really CL, then the least thing the cult would likely to do were just eliminating one kp.

@Jane_Drayton

Helen/Mary could’ve outed the check D2 for towncred though.

Especially with Nicolas claiming to have tracked Andy.

@Peter_Carew

What’s your point

I was saying that Helen giving out her info for Mary to use 2 night later just doesn’t seems plausible.

@Jane_Drayton

I don’t really know for now, but what I am saying that Mary being CL just doesn’t seems that plausible.

On Jane’s end, interactions with Mary are sparse and Jane barely questions Mary’s alignment at any point of the game. Could definitely be partners, I don’t see anything disproving that.

@Mary_Savill

@Jane_Drayton

Can we get some of your read over here?

Sure thing. Currently I see Alice as a small W-Lean. Partly because they were Wolfleaning me and because of their opener. Sarah feels a bit off to me also, mainly because not much to read it off but it was mainly because I wasn’t getting a similar read that others were getting. Ivo seems to be a productive Town and by extension they make me believe that Emma is also Town.

@Mary_Savill

@Jane_Drayton

So are you saying that you OMGUS him/her?

That’s the second part of it (Despite being stated first). Them seeing me as wolf barely changed my opinion on them since I can understand their read as I’ve talked about.

@Mary_Savill

@Jane_Drayton

Can you post more stuff once you came online?

That was the plan either way.

@Mary_Savill

Ivo
Thomas
Peter
Alan

Nicolas
Isabel
Emma
Sarah
Jane

Gilbert
Geoffrey
Nicolas
Edmond
Helen

Andy

Pretty much the same thing on Mary’s end. They have been nullreading each other seemingly for the entire game. They could easily be partners.

However, there is a disclaimer to be made here: there’s nothing social that seems w/w from my perspective. For all we know, these could be two townies nullreading each other, although I think they really should’ve decided each other’s alignment by now.

Conclusion: Mary and Jane could easily be partners, but there’s no evidence suggesting it’s likely. There’s no evidence against it, but I also don’t see much evidence for it.

Yeah, I think Mary’s just the CL here. This has shades of a wolf tying their partner to another player so when one flips the they can use it as a basis to falsely TR their partner or push a ML on a villa.

[Thomas_The_Second]

@Emma_Maison

@Emma_Maison

Look very good based on interactions with Helen:

Isabel
Gilbert

Unlikely to be with Helen:

Alice
Thomas

Has some posts which are unlikely to come from Helen’s partner:

Mary

I personally don’t think they are Helen’s partner:

Edmond

Could be Helen’s partners:

Andy
Peter
Sarah
Geoffrey
Jane (Caveat: I considered Helen’s end of the interactions good for Jane, but Jane’s end of the interactions looks bad for Jane, which is a little strange.)

I think I should move Edmond down a tier.
Isabel/Alice/Thomas/and maybe Mary are people I still trust as of right now, discounting the possibility of n2 conversion. I’ve been watching their posts today, and they have seemed relatively similar to me in general.

Andy and Peter are already dying, so that will resolve itself.

Lack of commitment to a Mary read looks partnish as well.

[Thomas_The_Second]

@Alice_Alard
@Edmond_Bailey

Going NK>CL will basically let them convert me and then potentially kill either of Alice/Edmond overnight depending on night actions. Not sure how the interactions between King/Chrono would work.

Going CL>NK will basically depend on either the NK. If it’s a Demon/Mindflayer, we lose. If it’s a Sorc, odds are that we lose unless the bombs were played terribly. If it’s a Poss/Reaper, we just win.