You think it might be too good or?
im not entirely sure
mithras has to brew their stuff which is susceptible to dayoccs, very minor point against them
i think voodoo doll is overall still better than ceremonial potion, as a cult healer will prevent the negative effects from both and the negative effect on the corax one also gives you another night to do actions and potentially get healed by a non-cult healer (unless we’re discussing starting cabalists; in which case the mithras one is better)
corrupt potion vs jinx is pretty obvious, one occupy is less than 2 
(although for fakeclaiming purposes, 1 occupy can be situationally better, i guess)
radiant potion is leagues stronger than jinx though
and blood potion is probably stronger than blood moon but they have slightly different uses
eh
when i think of it like this
i actually think it’s not too far apart
1 Like
i think a starting mithras cabalist/N1 one might actually be too strong compared to the corax one when i consider this
blah
I think they are both fine.
The only argument is Mithras Cabalist being dayocced – you could modify it so you are day immune? Though I feel like it would be unnecessary.
Also I feel like power levels are pretty equal, even if it makes sense for Mithras Cabalist to be a bit more powerful since you know, Mithras Cult has to sacrifice to continue killing.
You have to either keep them in for a long time and risk them getting found out/killed, or you just sacrifice them right off the bat.
It’s probably okayish?
well my point being that the downside is mitigated by this
but thats fair
this is a change that puts a bit of a fork into the setup so i don’t think i’m going to respect it with regards to corax CL
I think leaving both CLs as is would be more or less fine.
Make Cabalist’s passive not work with BoM :^)
This is not a serious proposition.
I meant “Make Cabalist’s passive a thing that doesn’t allow it to work with BoM”.
6 AM and all.
(As in, give Cabalist a passive. Word salad.)
i think im growing to be happy with this
@Amelia @arete @anon6348071 @geyde @jane any opinions?
not really sure who else to ping
uhhh
but if nobody has any huge disagreements i think i might just call it done cause these were the only two things stopping this setup from being complete
im mostly asking about the cabalists, but if anyone has any huge objections to the TK alts im still all ears on that
“why did you ping me reee” is also equal to “this is all perfect”
sorry for small massping
1 Like
Well
It’s just so positive and generous. Practically costs nothing at all at one mana you drop him on the board and that chill ass motherfucker gives you a spell to use later in the game. And you also get this adorable little 1/1 can ping things but usually is too harmless to be removed.
But more than the BB is just so positive. It comes on the board like “do you want to cast a spell?” and I’m like “yeah BB i do want to cast a spell let’s do this shit” and when he attacks he’s like “SPELLS ARE FUN” and I’m like “yeah they are SO FUN.” He doesn’t say some bullshit macho shit like “I will destroy you” he’s just like “nah spells are fun.” And it looks so happy. I mean this is an inanimate object literally brought to life by magic. It understands it’s life is a temporary magical gift and the dude is just fucking loving it.
I’ve already stated that I think both of those are fine, but you wanted to address the issue of Mithras Cabalist spawning as starter and becoming a powerhouse.
What if starting Cultist cannot be Cabalist for both Cults, period? That kinda solves “easy KP topped with a ton of versatility” issue, and it’s still more or less fine all around?
I’m really happy with this though, I think it’s pretty good all around:
i considered this but i kind of don’t want to go down this route if i don’t have to
i mean
i was half hoping you’d give me something real but i was very much expecting you to meme it
which is fine i like meme but i also know you’re capable of balance discussion