Right, so I’ve been waiting for PKR to answer my question, but it doesn’t look like they’re planning on doing that. Case should already be enough anyway.
Reasons for wanting NK out
I’d have to check but I don’t remember PKR being this (inconsistently) focused on NK in other games with an NK (Like in ToS2, although conversion reason doesn’t apply there).
Weird concern about appearance
Mainly caring way too much about looking good. Also weird phrasings (Trying to TMI themselves town? I didn’t really explain this very well but I don’t know how else to explain it) that I doubt come from town.
Odd mechanical “cluelessness”
I don’t think someone this focused about mechanics would actually not know these. I think PKR is faking them to look townier.
Mindset inconsistencies
Doesn’t really seem to actually be hunting for NK, and other stuff.
Incorrect/Odd Analysis
More likely to notice “NK slips”
Summary
Claim Inconsistencies
Case
You can’t know that for sure though? Why even say this? Anyway, the main point is that they didn’t mention NK and care too much about not looking bad.
Why?
Don’t believe super much in this one in particular, but it doesn’t really seem like they’re trying to lynch NK here?
There are a few things that can be true.
- Executioner bled
- Draketamer bled
- Assassin bled
- Dracorider bled (Draketamer Unseen convert)
- Cult Leader bled
- Cult alts such as Rite of Ascension. Or other cult abilities.
- Worshipper bled. I doubt this is the case.
- Fiddler fake bled. Hence why I said about fake bleeding.
- Frostweaver bled. If this is the case we have to be super careful whether we heal Magnus or not.
- Magnus lied
Don’t believe this analysis actually comes from Town PKR. Like, regardless of whether or not Frostweaver caused the bleed or is even in the game, we should be careful because of healing bleeds.
Chloe - I made this post earlier on but this is mostly a comparison to Insurgency!Chloe and Chloe this game. Chloe has been relaxed and I know how she panicked before when she was a scum member in Insurgency. I doubt that she would have significantly calmed down to the point where her tone this game is completely different and she is playing as if nothing bad could happen. I will be watching out for how her tone shifts if it does, as that could be from conversion but for now I like this slot.
Jane - Jane this game has helped out a lot . Questioning people as appropriate and due to that giving town more information to go off. This might just be scum!Jane trying to get cheap cred but I think tonally it is sound overall.
Centuries and PK are mostly gutreads because we have mindmelded multiple times and I think I would meld more with people that are the same faction as me . The tone in their posts is also genuine. I do not sense any bad intentions behind them ^^
Doesn’t really consider us being a possible NK here, like he later sort-of-but-not-really does with Wazza, even though he claims he’s mostly hunting for NK.
I am literally gonna have to look this up.
I have heard “Deathstalker” or “Darkstalker” or whatever.
But like wtf is it?
TBE is the NK because TBE admits nobody else is a form of neutral
You should do a slot for claims.
Like if we do have that dark thingy , there is 0 doubt they would ISO dive everyone to find claims.
Don’t believe Town!PKR actually says this. Town can keep track of claims themselves, no need to make it easier for scum. Besides, it doesn’t really help to know someone’s claim unless they can prove themselves with it.
I will be around for EoD and if the other 3 agree on a lynch.
Even if I do disagree with it…
I will bite, swallow my pride and go with it.But if that is the case I will bare no responsibility.
So if a scum is hit then thank the other three.
If a town member is hit then they’re who to look at.
What do you want?
If I disagree say “Well, then we won’t lynch”?If so then I am perfectly happy doing that.
But I was of the impression that lynching someone is better than nobody as it actually gives some info via stuff such as wagonomics.
“I PKR accept responsibility if the three people I disagree with lynch someone and it is a town member that I thought was innocent”
Like, seriously?
Think of what you are suggesting I accept here.
Wazza already was not being voted because he is clearly in his town meta but I am glad that you agree ^^
I see that I am in a fair few PoEs which is making me feel a fair amount of pressure despite the fact I cannot be lynched today.
However, it also makes me feel ensured about something.
Not really a point against you, but about what?
Wazza is someone that to me does not have a lot of confidence and his lack of motivation is something I believe I remember from Town!Wazza. Furthermore his reactions remind me of DGADT FM where I high read him as town, but, since this time there is no NK Helper role, I am more certain of his innocence.
The fact that he bounced back, made a readlist and is acting like I expect Town!Wazza to do, it is enough for me to be almost certain he is town here.
If he is not, I do not think he is main factional scum. So he would be NK or another neut. The only one I think he actively pulls of what he has done… is Fiddler. So that once again to me would want me to avoid voting him.
Red part looks like TMI that Wazza isn’t the NK, since NK and NK-helper are basically the same thing, yet you clear them from it. Then, at the end of the post, you retract clearing them from it, for whatever reason?
Holy f. Being in the top few posters is something I do not normally do.
O.o
I am glad that my analysis of all possible bleeders has somewhat come in useful here.
Though it would be even better if we knew what faction we are facing.
Not really AI, but like I mentioned before, that wasn’t actual analysis - You listed all of the possibilities.
If I am being a bit of a smart ass (Which I am thinking of right now)
Technically Blizer has at least 2/3 of the votes AND is a L-1.
So the 1 or another wincon… would it still work if both happen?
Have at least 2/3 of the votes needed to execute you or be at L-1 during a day and survive that day.
I highly doubt someone who is heavily focused on mechanics, and prides themself for it would make such a ridiculous “thought” and actually believe in it.
I think it was likely that NK was either RBd, hit an immune, hit a healed person or jailed person.
I think we have that frost thing because the bleed lasted one night.
It is possible NK chose to kill Magnus to frame it as a Frosty NK but I doubt they would waste it on that.
Surely NK would have killed you if they wanted that.
As for the fact that was the only kill… it is quite possible we have a cult game.
Cyan part doesn’t sound like actual analysis, as that are basically just all of the possibilities.
Why do you say this and it concerns me of maybe TMI
Oh wow, I focused on NK associated things like the whole game.
What a surprise.
You caught me, so opportunistic.It was not as if this is the SECOND time I caught UT in a possible slip.
I can’t really explain why, but these kind of posts sound very fake. I think they rarely ever come from town.
Read your bolded part again.
What does it say?It is as if you know what NK there is.
We know what NKs can appear. But the way you said it, it sounded like TMI that you knew we had the Anticlaim NK.
Idk whether that makes sense or not. But we already went over what NKs there would be but to say it with certainty concerned me.
In fact if I am in the PoE to be shot, voted or anything else and it is such a small PoE that something will happen to me… then I am going to have to stop it outright.
and you allegedly have an ability to save yourself from PK’s vig shot!
You all are going to hate me.
I am the Mage who healed Ans.
That is why I was so sure it was Frost whatever it is which at least caused Magnus to die to the 1 night bleed thing.Basically my will was like “If I die then it is likely to an absolute zero. So do not forget this.”
I could not risk being stopped from healing bleeding targets all game just because of Frost boi. So I took the risk and was willing to die. Luckily I didn’t this time.
You said you were sure the NK was Frostweaver, yet called Unknown out for “TMI” that the NK was Darkstalker. This is even disregarding the fact that what Unknown said was unlikely to actually be TMI.
Like, if that was TMI, you could also say the orange part is TMI that Frostweaver spawned.
The only thing is, it has been a while since I did FoL?
Is there anything which can frame? Or tailor checks?
This is important for analysis.
Cute. But no, I literally crumbed my claim gently and then when I saw danger I ended up claiming jic I am the only healer.
I mean, interesting attempt though at discrediting me.
This. I hate it. With a passion. Highly doubt it ever comes from town.
I didn’t explain them super in-depth, as I think most of them are pretty self-explanatory (with the guide given). If anything isn’t clear enough, just ask.