SFoL62 - Regal Lions - Cult and Oneiromancer Victory!

[CRichard564]

Any way @Arete please do stuff such as posting read list .

[Chloe]

@Arete

@Wazza

Townread:

Arete
Chloe
UnknownTraveller
Townlean:
Anstreim
Apprentice
Centuries
Scumlean:
Seth

Can you explain these

@Arete

@Wazza

And I do have another Scumlean, but I don’t want to post it.

Why not

@Wazza

I don’t exactly want to die at night.

I find it interesting that they ask a lot of questions but never follow-up on them

Wazza never answered the first question but they never called him out on it - seems like asking questions just to make it look like theyre progressing threadstate, but never coming to conclusions based on the answers or even… seeing if the person answers?

@Arete

on multiple occasions, as town, he has claimed scum and intentionally slipped as being scum with another player (who was also town) in an attempt to get that player executed

he has, as town, CC’d the real cop with an actual redcheck by claiming a fake redcheck on a different player, who was town

as scum, he has, without consulting with his teammates, posted a poem in the thread directly mentioning the lost wolf that outed the fact that both his teammates were in towncore, and also outed the lost wolf

the answer to your question is left as an exercise for the reader

@Arete

unlike Jaleb Jane has never made one of my friends quit an entire site

@Arete

a player from MU

my most notable experience with him was the time when he and his hydra partner were salty that Marshal and I were scumreading him, so he started trying to get us misexe’d despite believing us to be town in a way that looked like he was blatantly TMIing us V, and then after being exe’d for … TMIing us V … repeatedly called us things that would probably be against site guidelines to repeat and said we should never play FM again

@Arete

also if people want meta™ on Centuries I played a game with him offsite where he was scum (he’s Conroy)

look im gunna talk about other players’ metas to make it look like im contributing, but im not gunna say how i think this game compares to the ones im talking about

@Arete

Mine was DGADT

I would say that I learned not to let people live too long off of mech-confirms in a closed set-up but I knew that already

uhh

I learned that ‘don’t give people a free pass for doing nothing useful just because of meta/because everyone else is doing it’ is an effective way of finding wolves

Funnily enough
their behavior seems hypocritical
dont “let people live too long off of mech confirms” then proceeds to attempt to get mech-confirmed

“dont give people a free pass for doing nothing useful because […] everyone else is doing it”
hmmmmm

stick to your word

do stuff

[Chloe]

time to be a big girl :^)

/vote arete

[CRichard564]

/jettison Arete I’m down with putting pressure on this slot.
Do stuff.

[EliThePsycho]

Me too.

/vote Arete

[Chloe]

oh fuck okay

PK can i ask why you are voting this?

[Amelia]

Vote Count

Votee	Voted By	Votes
Emilia	TheBlueElixir	1/10
Wazza	Emilia, Arete	2/10
ModeShifter	PokemonKidRyan	1/10
Arete	Chloe, CRichard564, PsychoKang	3/10

ping me if I make an error

[EliThePsycho]

I saw your posts (and lets be real this is probably bandwagoning) and that seems pretty suspicious.

[EliThePsycho]

I’ll probably remove my vote if she gets too many because Fiddler.

[Chloe]

I asked a question out of curiosity and self-vote counts towards Fiddler wincon lmfaooo

Also, CRich, you asked me for my reads and I said i’d go person-by-person so we can discuss
Anyone else you wanna talk about?

[Chloe]

I will say that thats probably my most Out There read

So dont expect a ton more spice

[EightySecond]

I’ll preface this post by saying I don’t entirely disagree with scumleaning Arete. You’re talking this read up like they’re in the consensus towncore while they’re a pretty consistent null from what I’ve seen. It feels slightly “Look at me with my contrarian reads!” from your behalf.

@Chloe

look im gunna talk about other players’ metas to make it look like im contributing, but im not gunna say how i think this game compares to the ones im talking about

This point in particular strikes me as filler.

You’re not considering the context at all.

@EightySecond

Is ModeShifter a bad player or something?

@Arete

on multiple occasions, as town, he has claimed scum and intentionally slipped as being scum with another player (who was also town) in an attempt to get that player executed

he has, as town, CC’d the real cop with an actual redcheck by claiming a fake redcheck on a different player, who was town

as scum, he has, without consulting with his teammates, posted a poem in the thread directly mentioning the lost wolf that outed the fact that both his teammates were in towncore, and also outed the lost wolf

the answer to your question is left as an exercise for the reader

What’s wrong with this in context?

@EightySecond

You aren’t actually Jaleb, are you?

@Arete

unlike Jaleb Jane has never made one of my friends quit an entire site

@UnknownTraveler

wait who is Jaleb?

@Arete

a player from MU

my most notable experience with him was the time when he and his hydra partner were salty that Marshal and I were scumreading him, so he started trying to get us misexe’d despite believing us to be town in a way that looked like he was blatantly TMIing us V, and then after being exe’d for … TMIing us V … repeatedly called us things that would probably be against site guidelines to repeat and said we should never play FM again

These two quotes aren’t even talking a player in this game, while both not being out of place contextually.

@Arete

also if people want meta™ on Centuries I played a game with him offsite where he was scum (he’s Conroy)

This one is slightly more out of context, since it’s not in direct response to anybody, but I do recall people asking if Centuries had a scumgame to look at.

To be clear, I don’t think this argument only comes from a wolf. I just think it only comes from specific types of villagers. Can you further explain why you think those four quoted posts are wolfy?

[CRichard564]

Do you have a hot take on Anstreim? I’m town leaning this slot, though my paranoia is kicking in big time because of SFoL 61.5 memories if he lives longer than expected.

[Chloe]

@EightySecond

What’s wrong with this in context?

@EightySecond

These two quotes aren’t even talking a player in this game, while both not being out of place contextually.

@EightySecond

This one is slightly more out of context, since it’s not in direct response to anybody, but I do recall people asking if Centuries had a scumgame to look at.

To be clear, I don’t think this argument only comes from a wolf. I just think it only comes from specific types of villagers. Can you further explain why you think those four quoted posts are wolfy?

These quotes in particular aren’t wolfy as-is, as they are in response to questions - that I should have included - but it feels like theyre standing on the sidelines, and only popping in to answer meta-related questions so it looks like theyre contributing.
I don’t feel like they’ve done a lot and these posts are examples of times when they kinda pop in to answer or ask things but not progress the thread-state or get anything out of it

i see your point that saying “look im gunna talk about other players’ metas to make it look like im contributing, but im not gunna say how i think this game compares to the ones im talking about” ignores the context

and ye
i agree
that was shitty of me

[Chloe]

also by “these quotes” i dont mean yours, i mean arete’s - im answering the questions in the things i quoted

[UnknownTraveler]

Ello I am back. Why are we voting Arete again? I thought he was mechanically confirmed?

[Chloe]

@UnknownTraveler

I thought he was mechanically confirmed?

and there we go

[UnknownTraveler]

huh? Did I do something here?

[Chloe]

Did you not read any of my reasonings?
The answer to your question is literally in the thread

And it includes why you shouldnt just
not vote someone for being “mechanically confirmed”

[UnknownTraveler]

Ah I see