[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

Aelin voted EVO over marl, and lol over EVO
I dunno if that is particularly alignment indicative, and I kinda remember we analysed that and how it came about before, so I’ll put my effort elsewhere

Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
PokemonKidRyan Intensify 1/4
Tilgarial WindwardAway 1/4
[Not Voting] an_gorta_pratai, PokemonKidRyan, EVO, EliThePsycho, Tilgarial 5

EOD5 is at 2021-04-07T20:00:00Z.

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Pulling these up too

Claims (alive):
Eli - ninja sleepwalker
PKR - vanilla cop
Intensify - nexus

Remaining: wind, tilga, EVO, gorta

Hmm… I can’t see wind being very scummy right now, unless she is w/w with one of the claims

It just wouldn’t make much sense to make the claims have weight/be believed otherwise, because it’d severely limit the PoE to a point that includes herself

But if we take the claims for true, that only leaves gorta and EVO, for my personal PoE
Which tbh doesn’t strike me as a team

figured I’d post this since I have it updated.

Thread presence at EoD1/EoD2/EoD3/EoD4:

Wind was present/present/present/present (briefly)
Cloned was present/absent/ -
Min was present/ -
lol was present/present/present/present
EVO was present/present/present (until day extension)/absent (except 1h before)
Intensify was present/present/present/present
Eli was present/absent/absent/present
Marl was present/ -
Aelin was present/present/ -
GonZ was present/absent/present/ -
Tilga was present/present/present/absent
Gorta was absent/present/absent/present
cdecora was absent/absent/absent/ -
PKR was absent/absent/present/absent
Eevee was absent/absent/present/present

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Reasoning: with the D1 tie stuff, and both aelin and gorta voting EVO, that just doesn’t make sense

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I can kinda see why wind is suspecting me now, since something just isn’t adding up

If we take wind as town, and I am town, while EVO/Gorta aren’t a team, then we either only have 1 mafia left, or one of the claims is wrong/false
But if one lf the claims is false, wind could still be mafia too

Gorta voted EVO for two days before moving onto Eli on the third day
and EVO voted his counterwagon as self-pres for two days then went grudge voting Eevee.
maybe it’s more helpful to list the currently alive players and then whom they voted D1,D2,D3,D4.

Wind: Marl, lol, no exe, no vote
EVO: Marl, lol, eevee, eevee
Intensify: Marl, PKR, PKR, PKR
Eli: Marl, EVO, cdecora, eevee
Gorta: EVO, EVO, Eli, no vote
Tilgarial: EVO, lol, no exe, no vote
PKR: no exe, no vote, Eli, eevee
(Aelin: EVO, lol – --)

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The problem with one of the claims being false is… which one?
The effects of a nexus are hard to replicate, so unless intensify is heavily bluffing, and simply banking in nobody targetting him, that’s a hard sell.
Eli’s claim isn’t particularly useful, so there isn’t anything to prove in that regard.
PKR is the vanilla cop, which could be either alignment, from a purely mechanical standpoint

imo Intensify can only be bluffing if the vanilla cop is also mafia
meaning it would have to be Intensify/PKR w/w

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Which would put Eli up against PKR, which is a situation we already had at some point, i think?

Agreed

Ahh, that was the D3 where we ended up letting decora win instead of resolving that

actually, who would’ve been the top wagon(s) if cdecora hadn’t won?
because eevee said that voting no exe would give a funny result that was probably not what I was expecting (and he was right), but that it would be better than hazarding a vote at the rate we were going.

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Which… was partially started by eevee, kf I remember correctly.
Eevee, who claimed to know who is mafia already?

yeah, and I’m very sure that eevee solved the game correctly.

I’ll have to check, but as a stab into the dark, I think it was eli

mafia knew that, too, so most likely at least 1 voter on eevee is mafia

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right, it was Eli and PKR I think. And both of them voted eevee lol.

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