[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

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#5202

figured I’d post this since I have it updated.

Thread presence at EoD1/EoD2/EoD3/EoD4:

Wind was present/present/present/present (briefly)
Cloned was present/absent/ -
Min was present/ -
lol was present/present/present/present
EVO was present/present/present (until day extension)/absent (except 1h before)
Intensify was present/present/present/present
Eli was present/absent/absent/present
Marl was present/ -
Aelin was present/present/ -
GonZ was present/absent/present/ -
Tilga was present/present/present/absent
Gorta was absent/present/absent/present
cdecora was absent/absent/absent/ -
PKR was absent/absent/present/absent
Eevee was absent/absent/present/present

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#5203

Reasoning: with the D1 tie stuff, and both aelin and gorta voting EVO, that just doesn’t make sense

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#5204

I can kinda see why wind is suspecting me now, since something just isn’t adding up

If we take wind as town, and I am town, while EVO/Gorta aren’t a team, then we either only have 1 mafia left, or one of the claims is wrong/false
But if one lf the claims is false, wind could still be mafia too

#5205

Gorta voted EVO for two days before moving onto Eli on the third day
and EVO voted his counterwagon as self-pres for two days then went grudge voting Eevee.
maybe it’s more helpful to list the currently alive players and then whom they voted D1,D2,D3,D4.

Wind: Marl, lol, no exe, no vote
EVO: Marl, lol, eevee, eevee
Intensify: Marl, PKR, PKR, PKR
Eli: Marl, EVO, cdecora, eevee
Gorta: EVO, EVO, Eli, no vote
Tilgarial: EVO, lol, no exe, no vote
PKR: no exe, no vote, Eli, eevee
(Aelin: EVO, lol – --)

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#5206

The problem with one of the claims being false is… which one?
The effects of a nexus are hard to replicate, so unless intensify is heavily bluffing, and simply banking in nobody targetting him, that’s a hard sell.
Eli’s claim isn’t particularly useful, so there isn’t anything to prove in that regard.
PKR is the vanilla cop, which could be either alignment, from a purely mechanical standpoint

#5207

imo Intensify can only be bluffing if the vanilla cop is also mafia
meaning it would have to be Intensify/PKR w/w

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#5208

Which would put Eli up against PKR, which is a situation we already had at some point, i think?

#5209

Agreed

#5210

Ahh, that was the D3 where we ended up letting decora win instead of resolving that

#5211

actually, who would’ve been the top wagon(s) if cdecora hadn’t won?
because eevee said that voting no exe would give a funny result that was probably not what I was expecting (and he was right), but that it would be better than hazarding a vote at the rate we were going.

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#5212

Which… was partially started by eevee, kf I remember correctly.
Eevee, who claimed to know who is mafia already?

#5213

yeah, and I’m very sure that eevee solved the game correctly.

#5214

I’ll have to check, but as a stab into the dark, I think it was eli

#5215

mafia knew that, too, so most likely at least 1 voter on eevee is mafia

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#5216

right, it was Eli and PKR I think. And both of them voted eevee lol.

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#5217

I’ll check D3 for votes and stuff, you check how eevee got lynched? Or the other way around?

#5218

PKR, EVO, Eli were the votes in order on Eevee
EVO had the excuse of a vanity wagon
I have no idea why the other two voted Eevee

#5219

… that’s a bother

#5220

yeah my towncore is really messed up and I guess I have to un-towncore people again
honestly, this is why i rarely towncore anyone and I only go as far as townreading…

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#5221

Some games; towncoring people works
Other games; not so much…
Gotta see the difference to do it well