[Standard] WoW:BfA v1.1 - Alliance Victory (2/16)

[Centuries]

@Frankie

I don’t think that’s what she thinks!

?

Obviously she doesn’t think that?

She just went off on one of the 3 biggest LHF in the game because he tried to make some dumb play and didn’t actually rescind compared to others

@Frankie

does not allow room for that read to grow

Obviously I can re evaluate the read but so far I don’t see a reason why my read would grow seeing what has happened thus far

@Frankie

you might be more inclined to ignore her posts

again no

@Frankie

I just think that tunneling can be very dangerous and I want to help you flesh out your read on her better

I can do that by myself if I commit to actually re evaluating

@Frankie

and then decide that if her posting is a poorly justified and fake read or if there is a line of logic that can come from a town.

The issue is greater than the line of logic, she just kept on going compared to others.

@Alice

…Seth’s being completely unproductive here.

lol yes but I’m not lynching that slot

[Alice]

@Centuries

She just went off on one of the 3 biggest LHF in the game because he tried to make some dumb play and didn’t actually rescind compared to others

Why do you think Napoleon’s LHF over being a wolf?

[Frankie]

And, importantly, why does not rescinding mean that she is more likely to be mafia?

[Centuries]

@Alice

Napoleon’s LHF

I do not think scum napoleon ever commits to this day one play as scum after what happened last game, he is way too out there in my opinion.

@Frankie

why does not rescinding mean that she is more likely to be mafia?

I don’t think the arguments are important enough for a Town Chloe to be this sure of Napoleon being scum and also her aguments never really evolved past "bad rt + tone + “content” (lol)

[Centuries]

Wait I wanted to add something why did it post

[Centuries]

@Chloe

dont sheep me

am bad

make own reads

(not what I wanted to add to my post but I have this quote hanging around)

It’s probably a joke but the timing is fairly bad

[Alice]

@Centuries

I do not think scum napoleon ever commits to this day one play as scum after what happened last game, he is way too out there in my opinion.

Why not? Why do you think villager Napoleon does this?

[Centuries]

@Alice

Why do you think villager Napoleon does this?

It’s more of a “scum napoleon wouldn’t” than “town napoleon would”
He seems way too careless about the game state early on.
His openener is also pretty non serious compared to the one he made in Community Mafia.

I have more to say but I’m kinda having a mafia overload in my brain

[Centuries]

He seems way too sure his RT is some glorious idea and I don’t think Mafia would plan this far forward

[Alice]

@Centuries

@Alice

Why do you think villager Napoleon does this?

It’s more of a “scum napoleon wouldn’t” than “town napoleon would”
He seems way too careless about the game state early on.
His openener is also pretty non serious compared to the one he made in Community Mafia.

I have more to say but I’m kinda having a mafia overload in my brain

@Centuries

He seems way too sure his RT is some glorious idea and I don’t think Mafia would plan this far forward

This explanation checks out.

[Centuries]

Checks what out

[Alice]

The logic you’re seeing here is that you TR’d Napoleon earlier on because of his carefree opening and you’re seeing the push on him being done on bad faith because of it. I don’t seen anything objectionable with this.

[Centuries]

Yeah that’s it.

What do you think of Frankie?

[Alice]

I liked his reaction to Napoleon’s push on him.

The level of it felt like he analyzed it in a pretty critical manner. Probs >rand V.

[Centuries]

@Alice

in a pretty critical manner.

My issue is that there’s no stance being taken in the recents posts, like every post related to me minus the vote which I felt was more so pressure~ish than actual reasoning based voted (or he totally sheeped ur read) is just like coaching me or whatever that was, every recent post of his (i assume he) is like that

[Alice]

That’s probs the main issue that concerns me about him.

He’s way too agreeable even if the reaction to Nap was a good one.

[Centuries]

@Frankie

I’m liking Alice’s posting a lot. I find that when she posts something, I usually end up agreeing with it. I might be biased because she’s the 1 person who I recognise here, but I really liked the two posts below!

@Frankie

I agree with her on Meta, mostly. I do think that some people might have a LHF Meta and may need to be treated more carefully, but usually, Meta reads can be used to justify reading any player as any alignment, if things are cherrypicked. This can come from town as well, and that is almost worse! A town member can think they have a good case when in reality they have been ignoring the games that do not support their case because they want to be right.

I also like her centuries vote. His 2nd post seemed fairly performative. It was a moderately long, but in the end it said almost nothing. In fact, reading through his ISO, and ignoring his defense of napoleon, he has not taken many stances or given that many reads. It improves later down the ISO, but even then his push of chloe is not that great. Clearly, they disagree on the Napoleon read, which is fine, but him saying that is reason to vote her is not something I particularly agree with.

/vote Centuries

@Centuries My message to you is to please take slightly stronger stances! Right now it seems like you are just floating. Don’t be afraid to make some stronger reads, you can always re-evaluate them later, but right now it seems like you are putting most players as Null, and that does not do much to actually help the game or understand your reads.

Is this actual reasoning coming from town and just the message in general

[Centuries]

It’s too perfect for a forum mafia player

[Alice]

V

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Alice
CRichard
Apprentice
Ami

Leafia
Italy
Chloe
Frankie

Blizer
SDA
Ob
10
Chuck

Napoleon
Centuries

Modeshifter

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W

Effectively where I’m at rn.

[Alice]

/vote ModeShifter