[Standard] WoW:BfA v1.1 - Alliance Victory (2/16)

[Leafia]

Vulgard wasn’t wrong about me being town. If he was, he’d still be alive. Bottom line. This goes doubly true if I was the LW.

[Leafia]

There’s only 4 scum, not 5.

[Leafia]

And definitely not 6.

[Frankie]

I’ve been super busy today. I still think leafia is the best jettison.

I honestly think that all of

Centuries
Italy
Crichard
Moleland

are town.

That leaves

Napoleon
an_gorta_pratai
chloe
Blizer
Leafia
10posts

I believe that gorta is spewed as not the superpower, and if we assume that the superpower is Genn, then blizer is also not the superpower.

People mafia read Crichard564, and I personally think he is likely to be town here.

Napoleon I think has a chance at being mafia, honestly. He’s dropped down enough in PoE to where I think he could just be alliance.

[Frankie]

I will do Night-Kill Analysis on Vulgard to see where his thoughts were. I would honestly imagine that Group scum would kill people correct on them over people correct on their superpower. That may be my final contribution this game.

[10_posts_daily]

That’s my point on Leafia, since they fit superpower.

Vulgard would be killed anyway if he was correct on rest of the team.

[Leafia]

I’m never even a slightly good jettison here.

[Leafia]

No he wouldn’t be. Not if I was the superpower.

[Leafia]

Hopefully it is because you’re being so anti town that it isn’t even funny.

[10_posts_daily]

Also, I see a weird pattern:

Napoleon is only confirmed becouse Moleland claims to occupy Derps.
Yet only thing which effectively confirms Moleland is whisper to Napoleon.

Chloe is only confirmed Tauren due to Leafia claiming blocked n3.
Yet only thing which confirms Leafia as Goblin are rocket boots blocking… Chloe.

There could be more like this.
We are circlejerking. And that looks weird.

[Leafia]

Also, the superpower isn’t even 100% confirmed to be Genn yet.

[Frankie]

@Vulgard

Alice is town. There is no way she rands wolf and still has the highest postcount in the middle of day 2 after being forced to leave the game during night 1. Also, she did her towntell super early. If I’m wrong about this, I will ask the mods to give me an embarrassing title.

@Vulgard

Centuries is the most obvious villager in the entire game. Everything about his posts screams town.

@Vulgard

Italy is also town, because he’s showing genuine investment in the game and his reactions to things were >rand villagery. Can’t be bothered to quote exact posts, but yes.

@Vulgard

Leaning town of CRich because of the post below.

@CRichard564

Do you think he’s incapable of doing it as a lost wolf? Do keep in mind that the scum leader doesn’t know who their fellow scum are. They are effectively a townie with an anti-town win condition.

@CRichard564

In other words you think he’s more likely village than lost wolf then?

Doesn’t feel like signaling of any kind. Also spews Leafia as V if CRich is groupscum W. A groupscum wolf never uses this line of questioning on another wolf, unless Leafia is the actual LW who was discovered by accident, or CRich is the LW.

I also don’t see any greater problems with his ISO. He’s most likely just town.

@Vulgard

THE RIDDLE

First posts of various games.

@Chloe

Hey im here but im not really here. Unsure when EoD is but I might not be able to talk for a few hours. Ily all

Town

@Chloe

WOOO FIRST

NK

@Chloe

Good morning GAMERS

Groupscum

@Chloe

Alriiiight friends. This is Chloe on the toilet. Here to say that I’m on GMT -8. Glhf dorks

Town

@Chloe

what the FUCK is up

Her first post this game.

What do you think Chloe’s alignment is?

Sample size: 4 is not ideal, but it is good enough.

@Vulgard

By the way, I’m 100% convinced this is not wolf!Leafia’s tone and she finally randed V this game.

@Vulgard

/jettison Chloe

Goblin spaceship to the rescue, saving town from clearing a WOLF WOLF WOLF.

[quote=“Vulgard, post:2678, topic:82340, full:true”]
She’s just a wolf.

Her posts as town vs her posts as scum early on in the game carry a different energy. She seems to think that yelling as her intro is town indicative, when it’s not. At least, not for her. And I’ve just proven it.

@Chloe

semi-cold take

italy town

he posted more than 3 times, and didnt ignore my request to stay omegalul

/unvote

This is literally TMI. This is an easy misclear on a potential wolf and she should know better than this.

@Chloe

@Alice

It doesn’t matter how wolfy you look like as hyperposting will negate all SRs on you.
[/quote]

yeah i should stfu

i’ll let people answer the questions

Would be super funny if she TMI’d herself as wolf here. “If she’s implying that hyperposting is wolfy now, I should shut up before she scumreads me for it.”

[quote=“Vulgard, post:2684, topic:82340, full:true”]
Wasn’t in the OP. Thought he was alive, my bad.

That’s one correct read.

@Napoleon

you better show some respect to towngod Napoleon because if you are town, I’m gonna fucking carry your ass, and if youre scum, you’re making yourself look bad by insulting my ability to carry town.

Wouldn’t clear Nappy for his early behavior. It’s >rand V though.

@Napoleon

Frankie - Yes, I was RTing them. The “!” wasn’t a legitimate read and their response felt genuine. I’m convinced that the “!” is part of their regular speech (though I pretended not to believe it) and their frustration seems genuine. I don’t think their posts actually pinged me as W.

This is V as well.

@Napoleon

Leafia did you finally get a town game on this site?

@Napoleon

@Leafia

Yup. Feels nice too. Now I get to figure out who the groupscum is alongside the other villagers.
[/quote]

I think you’re lying.

Immediate flipflop makes no sense as scum, because it obviously screws up your progression.
I don’t think Nappy is self-aware this game.
Which probably makes him town.

[quote=“Vulgard, post:2685, topic:82340, full:true”]

@Napoleon

Vulgard, what’s your read on Chuck?

The guy’s postcount is just below the host’s. >Rand W just for that reason.

@Chuck

howdy all, no time to read through right now but i’ll take a look when i get on in a few hours

@Chuck

Hi, currently reading back thru the messages. Was unexpectedly very busy today, just got done what I had to do.

Classic “guys I’m busy” opener. >Rand W.

@Chuck

I appreciate the vote of confidence but I think you overestimate my abilities lol

Notice the post this responds to. “This guy is going to crush us if he rands scum.”
Did this guy TMI himself as scum? Probably not, but funny to think about.

@Chuck

i was going to put this in a (small) wallpost but reading through i noticed this almost exactly before reading this post - i’ve played with scum!Seth before and his first few posts smelled almost exactly like that

I feel like this is intended to be a fake mindmeld. I don’t understand why he doesn’t push or vote Mode after saying this, either.

@Chuck

town (in no particular order)

centuries - he seems to be putting out a lot of genuine content
alice - same honestly
nap - i’m assuming an “RT” is whatever bullshit he tried to do with accusing people for exclamation points, but yeah it looks high effort and a legit effort to figure things out
frankie - seems kinda quiet after that first interaction but also seems fine
chloe - lots of effort but i like her less than some of the other townies
CR - i liked in the beginning but closer to null atm

scum (in no particular order)

seth - from a scum game i’ve played with him the whole tone of “i own the game and yall answer to me” is scum indicitave
derp - clown face emoji
oB - seems very low effort though he’s getting better

everyone else is null or slipped my mind

This guy is essentially TRing all of the “better” players and scumleaning the “worse” players. These reads look fake because of how shallow they are. Having most vocal posters in your townleans is a potential pocket, too.

@Chuck

oh, because i forgot to do this in my reads post

/jettison ModeShifter

Wow, finally. Took him long enough.

I feel like the towniest thing in this ISO so far is all the meming, but the meming alone doesn’t really make me think he’s V. The actual content is a bunch of mildly creative reads and then a readlist which is incredibly shallow.

He could still be a villager, honestly.

@Chuck

@Chloe

I’ve barely interacted with Chuck and you think im groupscum with him?
[/quote]

this also

@Chuck

well where the interaction between the two of us then lmao

…What? This is another instance where it looks like Chuck is TMIng himself as scum.

@Chuck

i only remember seeing his scum

…And yet he keeps saying Seth is scum based on a meta argument, without knowing how he plays as town ?

Most of Chuck’s reads are just badly explained. Not completely unexplained, but explained in a handwavey way which indicates an inability to create a better foundation for the reads.

@Chuck

my wagon on seth wasn’t vanity, i was going off literally the only person i had meta knowledge on and my “shitty ISO” was explaining why i had those meta reads

To be fair, though, this post is villagery.

@Chuck

alright yall want content

ima do a turbo ISO on app

Like, his reactions to being wagoned are rather villagery here. And he does a super blatant thing at EoD where he suddenly reads Apprentice hyperscum when his wagon is in contention with Apprentice’s.

@Chuck

centuries - his wagon on me smells like a “lets lynch chuck cuz why not”

leafia
app

Scum

Progression is completely out of wack. This guy suddenly put the other top wagon as his biggest scumread just because he was going to get lynched. Either he’s openwolfing really boldly for someone who claims to have little experience (complete lack of care about his progression), or he’s just town.

I’m honestly leaning town, despite all the bad.

@Vulgard

@SirDerpsAlot

Can I bleed Alice tonight

@SirDerpsAlot

Alice can I bleed you tonight

Alice scum.

@SirDerpsAlot

It’s similar to what she did in insurgency imo where she just bullied the thread and had most of the control

Quotes a game where Alice was town in an attempt to prove that she’s scum.

Derps does not care about making even the slightest amount of sense this game.

He’s town.

@Vulgard

Centuries
Leafia

Napoleon
Derps
Italy
CRichard

@Vulgard

PoE:

Blizer
Mode
Frankie
10_posts_daily

Chloe (wolf wolf wolf by the way)

@Vulgard

Say whatever you want. I’m pretty sure Chloe is scum, though.

@Vulgard

Mode probably scum tbh.

@Vulgard

And this post is really good. I think I’m locking this in as town.

Having so few posts makes the guy so much easier to read. I don’t think all the insults targeted at this slot were entirely warranted.

@Vulgard

I think I’m agreeing with this guy too much for him to be scum unless my reads are garbage.

He also feels super different from the last FoL he played in. Nothing he’s posted reeks of bad faith to me.

I think I’m ready to lock this one in as town.

@Vulgard

’m still townreading the Alice slot and I really don’t want it yeeted.

As long as we agree on Centuries/Me/Leafia/Italy/CRich/10posts/Nappy, we can yeet outside of that group.

My primary yeet would be Mode, maybe Frankie.

@Vulgard

Yeah, this threadstate is pure garbage. Gorta has been the top wagon forever and he’s being voted based on circumstantial mech “evidence.”

I’ll eat my words if he’s scum, but I really don’t think he is.

At least create a counterwagon instead of just letting the easy yeet happen.

Take-aways:

Vulgard townread:

Centuries
Leafia
Italy
Crichard564
10_posts_daily
Napoelon
Blizer
an_gorta_pratai

in PoE/Nulls, he had:

Chuck

and his strongest wolfread was:

Chloe

is it possible I’m misclearing Chuck/moleland for interactions with Mode? It felt a little too awkward to be w/w and i’m pretty sure we know Chuck cannot be the superpower, but I think him being GroupScum is possible.

No matter what, he was town-reading at least 1 Mafia. Is the rest of his PoE just that good?

[Frankie]

10_posts_daily scares me a little, I have a feeling they are a lot stronger than they let on and I am worried about getting burned here. But my paranoia is not enough to drown out… everything that leafia has done.

So I still think Leafia is the best jettison.

[Moleland]

Actually, I’ve been seen visiting my targets pretty much every time.

I like how you describe Derps as gamethrowing, yet refuse to be useful and just want to waste discussion time.

[Frankie]

I think 10_posts_daily was right on SirDerpsAlot, with his play and his defenses I think the class he flipped suits him well.

[10_posts_daily]

@Moleland

Actually, I’ve been seen visiting my targets pretty much every time.

And that confirms what exactly?

Your class? Your race?

[Moleland]

That I’m not ‘Just got a confirm from nappy’

[Leafia]

I’m only the best jettison if you’re scum here. 10 Posts is the best jettison right now for town I think. Either him or Chloe.

[10_posts_daily]

@Moleland

That I’m not ‘Just got a confirm from nappy’

So what else confirms your class?

What else confirms your race?

[Frankie]

Either way, I have things to do. I still think Leafia is likely to flip Superpower today. I probably will not be on for EoD, and then I will no longer be a treestump.