The Queen, Blue Dragon's Double-Edged Sword

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#1

“The most powerful piece in chess is the Queen.”

The Queen :shield:

Blue Dragon Killer (Unique)
Royal Blood (Passive) - As a Royal, you can put your name forward for nominations to become the next King.
Iron Will (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing. When converted, your class does not change, you do not know who the other Unseen/Cult are, you do not participate in their night chat and you do not count against their maximum number.
The Queen’s Mark (Day) - Choose a player to mark. This mark will disappear at the end of the night. - Infinite uses
Black Dagger (Night) - Stalk a target. If a marked player visits your target, you will attack them. - Infinite uses
Mask of Steel (Night) - You will stay on guard tonight, becoming immune to death. Investigative abilities used on you tonight will be prevented. If a marked player visits you, you will attack them. - 3 uses
Defeat the Unseen or Cult and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

This is an idea I had for a powerful and dangerous BD class that can be very useful or very harmful depending on how it’s used and whether it gets converted. Feedback appreciated!

#2

Queen Elizabeth II is not impressed.
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#3

Also that doesn’t make sense. Does the Queen change her gender just to have her title changed?

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#4

Doesn’t seem to stop the Princess…

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#5

Yeah that’s dumb too.

#6

it would confirm whether your charcters former class was male or female doe

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#7

This should be a Blue Dragon Killer role instead of a Special. The Special tag is there for classes that don’t fit anywhere else like the King or a converter, not for a Town Power that has an obvious class type like the Queen.

Iron Will (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing. When converted, your class does not change, you do not know who the other Unseen/Cult are, you do not participate in their night chat and you do not count against their maximum number

Would be too damn broken for the Unseen. The Unseen’s main limitation is their low numbers, and the Queen would just completely throw it out of the window.

Unmask (Day) - [Cannot be used before Day 4] You reveal yourself to the Court as the Queen. You lose your Mask of Steel ability, but you cannot be imprisoned by the Prince or executed by the King. - 1 use

Self-confirming is bad, but since this is a Town Power I’ll let it slide.

Black Dagger (Night) - Stalk a target. If any marked players visit your target, you will attack them. - Infinite uses

Would be broken if converted as it’d raise the KPN without any drawbacks for evil.

Mask of Steel (Night) - You will stay on guard tonight, becoming immune to death. Investigative abilities used on you tonight will be prevented. If any marked players visit you, you will attack them. - 3 uses

Again, broken if converted. There’s a very good reason why Enforcers and Poachers are a completely different classes than their BD counterparts or how Killer BD roles are reassigned to the Offensive Cult member, as giving the Unseen/Cult a second killing ability per night will absolutely destroy BD and give them little to no time to react. Plus, you’re giving them this ability without wasting a slot on their faction for it.

In short, the main issue for this class is that it’s a gamebreaker if it gets converted. The extra KPN and being a free member makes the converted Queen too strong of a class for the Cult and especially the Unseen. I’d suggest reworking how this role plays with the evil faction and create a separate Evil Queen while readjusting its abilities so the KPN remains constant.

#8

TBH just do 4 things:

1: Remove both passives and the 2nd day ability

2: Change the type to killer and remove the unique part

3: Make an actual converted version

4: Rename the class

From there everything else is details (speaking of which details incoming)

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#9

It seems about as Killer as Prince is though

#10

And being REALLY honest, it’s just a better Hunter

#11

Veteran from ToS. Throne of Salem!

#12

Details:

Ok I guess she can be occupy immune. However she needs to be a regular convertable class fundimentally.

I would also make mask of steal prevent and kill any marked players visiting you (if they aren’t visiting they aren’t prevented).

#13

I get removing the pointless auto-confirmation, but is Royal Blood on a non-Prince Killer role really that bad?

#14

I think people need to read the class mechanics more carefully. :stuck_out_tongue:

She has no way of actually killing people unless those people visit a specific target (herself or the target she chooses at night), and even then, she has to have marked them previously and they both have to go to the same target. It’s not overpowered or broken because of the different conditions that must be met for her to kill.

And yes, she is an extremely powerful asset in the hands of the Unseen and Cult, that’s the point of the class. It’s a double-edged sword that you really don’t want evils getting their hands on.

#15

She is killer. All she does is kill.

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#16

Sure, I’m willing to accept that her killing potential overshadows her Social aspect and change the class type.

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#17

Also. What’s the point of her reveal ability? It just makes her pointlessly confirmable.

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#18

Why unconvertible as well

#19

She’s convertable

#20

Okay

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