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But jump up to that post

I also found their interaction worth reading through again.
I wanted to point out something you brought to my attention in this particular post by ATN, though:

This is actually really important.
I think this means that if Appel and ATN are both scum, one of them would have to be a convert for the push to suddenly occur like that. The other possibility is just that only Appel was scum and jumped at the chance to push ATN because he suddenly became an easier agenda push than Marl was.

after a quick read of Appel, there is probably a wolf in those last 4

I think she felt she had to put at least one of her partners in the PoE. But putting them down as question mark gives leeway in the read later. And doesnā€™t look good to just have one question mark, so sheā€™d do another person too.

wait, she changed the order of her PoE and which ones had question marks next to them. Which one came first?

The second came first

She removed the question mark from EVO after interacting with him

Then put a question on Min after there was attention there I think

and Min died after that
meaning Min couldā€™ve been a ā€œframe killā€ as I suspected, based on Appelā€™s PoE there
to make it look like they pulled a suicide conversion

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Or I guess completely added Min along with the question mark

Yeah good point

well, it just came out of nowhere and Appel justifies this out of know where push by saying Whysper asked Appel to look at AT and this happened. It definitely looks like it could be a move to get towncred

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Cloned and AT then hammer a bit later with no majority consent

thatā€™s also possible.
so you think Appel mightā€™ve been pushing on a scummate, then?

very possible

Well the progression was really that ATNo was already getting pushed and she just went along with it.

maybe we should be looking at who started pushing ATN first
since Marl wasnā€™t really getting pushed much

do it

this still doesnā€™t disprove an Appel/AT w/w world

I think I pushed ATNo right away on the vote. Later Cloned said something about being glad that I noticed that too and he agreed.

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