Vanilla Townies - Are they still despised?

So clearly mechanical solving is something that is valued

Thats boring

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And you completely disregard my point because reasons

If super bastard was the standard for all games that weren’t pure vanilla, then why are the most popular setups in between the two
That is the central point here

Cuz ppl are bad

Because someone values doesnt make it better?

But you are trying to argue the objective merit of those setups

Popularity plays an important role there

Cant be
Cuz
Its
Subjective

Best setups are A/B
You don’t provide any reasoning

I look at RL where that isn’t the case.
I look at common responses which don’t agree with that case

I like them

This is implying that you are arguing objective

It What other way would you measure it

Thats implying that I am memeing

I need to sleep
I can’t make sense of anything

No

You cant go now

I will typically not like a game where I can’t participate in any special events. Something like the public healing/hiding that Firekitten did would qualify for me. Something like ITA’s would qualify for me. Without that and especially other people do having those abilities, I’d feel annoyed to roll vanilla town.

Counterpoint.

I can.