[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

because right now they’re in my PoE more or less just because i defaulted them to PoE and not because I think they’re the scummiest player in the game

@Clownzu, here is your homework.

Tell me when @City ever agreed to your Silviu read. I don’t recall them ever doing that.

actually i only remembered city’s vote on silviu
but when i asked for their reasoning they first said “idk” and then this:

and this response was towny

ok never mind, so city wasn’t agreeing with my case on silviu/whysper then
but idk how much they read

eh, going through City’s ISO has convinced me they’re town tbh

I remembered thinking that the last time i read it through but forgot which posts were towny, and now that i’ve seen them again i’m pretty convinced

Then, am I correct to presume that you believe Whysper/Clown is a (high) possibility?

If so, then I don’t know how to feel about Whysper.

I recall you also saying that Whysper/Pigeon is a possibility, but you wanted Whysper/cloned to be a thing since you believe them to be V/W or W/V.

Everything is fixated on exe’ing Whysper, and I feel as if you don’t care what the CW is as long as you can exe her.

This seems to be too complicated, so let me try to simplify it: @WindwardAway, how many scum do you think exist within Clown/Pigeon?

300 posts I kinda dont feel like reading but whatever brb

I’ve been voting cloned for a while based off of him not only pushing like, blatantly easy pushes (not only on d1 but also d2) but said pushes have weird reasoning or is only based off of preflipping

I’m having trouble believing someone who’s town would still be looking at this post and deciding I’m scum based off of it especially considering the fact you’re not only misinterpreting said post but you literally dropped the argument and then randomly now are using it again bruh

I’ve read the posts. A lot of them are about TRing me and SRing Whysper, both things I agree with. I don’t feel like I have anything to add rn?

yeah, let me clarify:

1 at most

I don’t think more than one of the newbie/LHF slots is scum. I’m not counting the Silviu/Whysper slot within that, but out of pigeon/Clownzu I would not think there’s more than one scum between them. And considering that pigeon is Clownzu’s only independent push, I highly doubt they’re partnered.

I don’t know if anyone is directly TRing you. There’s such a thing as being willing to think you’re town from wagonomics, but you don’t have much else going for you at the moment. I’d like to have a better read on your slot, though, and see where your thoughts are at. How do you feel at the moment? Both you and Whysper are currently top wagons, and it’s looking like you’re in the running for today’s elimination.

LHF as in, I might consider City as LHF but they certainly aren’t new. I also don’t think they’re scum anyway at this point.

hello min!
do you have any opinion on Whysper right now or is your read still the same as it was on Silviu?

I’ve read a lot, but I feel like I’m so far from getting a real grip

that’s actually why i think one of the wolves has to be one of the more active players in the thread and I can’t figure out who it is
and it’s bugging me tbh
I feel like if the game were easier and made sense, and if we’d caught a wolf yesterDay, I’d be more willing to believe that the entire scumteam was going UTR and just lurking. But someone has to have enough thread control to keep up the MLs, and I guess we’ll see after the elimination today, but if we misyeet then we’re going to have to scumhunt a lot more aggressively.

I want to townread them but idk. Everyone is making good points. The one thing I’m rly worried about is how quickly everyone jumped on them

well, there was resistance yesterDay, and toDay there’s also the pigeon wagon that has traction for whatever people’s reasons are that I’ve been trying to gauge

I actually thought people were faster to hop onto the pigeon wagon without explaining much, than the Whysper wagon. Plus, people have expressed scumreads on Whysper and then withheld their votes, while people are voting pigeon even without expressing solid scumreads.

IIRC cloned is currently voting Marl, whom I don’t see as “a blatantly easy push”. Is there no other reason for you to vote him?

IDK what City is thinking, but Clown and I are not exactly TRing you.
If you want some easy topic fodder, then I’d like you to give your opinion on Nuclear.