[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

City

Jumping around a little, let’s head over to (one of) my top scumreads

The main thing going against City is the wagonomics

And not just that they voted town out; it’s that they consistently vote at the last minute.

See these:

voted four minutes before EoD

Hammer vote

Last vote as well, 1 minute before

In the case of both Marl and Leafia, they switched their vote at the very last moment, often becoming the tiebreaking vote (was tiebreaking in leafia at moment of vote, shifted 4/3 to 5/2 in marl)

And in all of these snapvotes, they fail to explain their reasoning behind them, just “wups I’m sorry but it has to be done”

I have no idea where people are getting “city town” from any of this and frankly find that scummy as well

min

My second scumread, which is partly an association read with City

Talking strictly wagons, min has 1) not voted, 2) voted the later-revealed PR, and 3) voted Marl out of “self-pres”

The one I scumread out of here are 1 and 3.

D1 was a fierce TvT wagon, and it makes sense that scum would want to take no part in it; that being said, I believe min was absent during EoD1 so this one is a meh

The D3 wagon is a little weirder, and where I get the “association read” from; when the wagon was tied 3v3, with city being on min’s wagon, min “self-pres’ed”, then City’s vote immediately followed

As I believe I have previously noted, I can only see this as scum being afraid someone will come in and vote min. City didn’t explain any of their votes, and voted Marl as the final nail in the coffin; what does this say about min’s alignment?

Besides that, min’s pushes have just been abysmal this whole game; I can point to the one where they wouldn’t give up the “cheese’s initial 3 people team was bad lol” point until well into d3

January

The least egregious of my scumread trio.

The non-independent portion of the scumread is documented well here:

[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Day 5 (7/15) - #6862 by Vulgard

TL;DR, he pushed only on villagers, had completely unexplainable reads, and the only thing they have going for them is that they were condescending

The independent part of my read comes from the “condescending” portion of the last point; January has been acting extremely adamant that they’re town, saying things along the lines of “oh I will die tonight” and acting as if he’s cleared.

All of this is simply absurd to me, given that for every person in the game, there should be no slot that you are not willing to reconsider; sure some slots may look more favorable than others, but nobody should be giving January the locktown treatment they claim they require

I don’t ever see town doing it in this situation.

I frankly am working with a City/min/January team right now, with Zone or Windward being possible candidates for maximum one of the three

too sleepy to review everyone, so left out my two nullreads

hope y’all understand ._.

current vote would be on City

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So what motivation as a wolf do I have for these votes? All of the wagons except first one would have ended up in a lynch without me and the first one was V/V.

This is straight wrong.

If I’m a scumteam with both min and city, that means they are not villagers.

Guess who I pushed on.

No wolves have flipped so u cant know heh

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I’ve pushed on every alive player, except vulgard I believe.

There’s two

  1. To dogpile onto the top wagon, thus getting less suspicion by shifting blame (“oh everyone else was voting them”)
  2. To save a scummate

first one goes for D1

second one goes for D1 and D3

Or I can just be on another wagon and have same result without having voted a town?

I literally didn’t even do this. Marl did.

Anyway, like I said, I’m going to find villagers today. And I’m not going to defend myself anymore because I think it’s a waste of time. I’ve done all the defending yesterday. If we lose, we lose.

oh sorry

im not really taking into account you pushing currently alive slots

basically every slot you pushed previously has ended up dead and flipped town

which is like 4 separate villagers

That means you are wrong that I have only pushed villagers.

hence why i kinda think the second one is more damning

cuz you probably couldn’t have “Saved” min if you were lounging off somewhere, on the offchance someone switched their vote last minute

Would “they attacked flipped villagers with what appeared to be agenda” be a better accusation then

Why would I be pushing on agenda/meta.

By the way, while people are here, I’ve thought about for a bit, and my only defense of why vul is town is because he is similar to marl.

Ok so by this logic if I knew that 2 main wagons are V/V wouldn’t it make more sense for me to vote a third wagon, because a townie gets always lynched and I am not seen on either of main V wagons?

min?

Marl isn’t vulgard. They don’t have the same villager meta or gameplay.

I’m considering swapping him for zone.