This is the kind of reasoning that kept me alive in Insurgency.
Because I have reasons to townread Io which donāt apply to Mole. The way Mole is handling his Wisp wolfread isnāt the only argument against him. His solving has been notably underwhelming, his reads have been quite weak and developing opinions has been taking him a long while. His sudden snap to a solid scumread on me after I pushed him is notable, because he has not had this type of progression on anyone else before. He spent the early game shitposting and handing out townreads every now and then, but finding wolves has been a struggle, if you read his ISO. The frequency of wolfreads is very low.
They do exist, though ā namely, the Wisp scumread. However, like Iāve said multiple times, the way heās handling it is really weird and I donāt think a villager acts like this when they think they found a wolf. Mole is currently trying to convince me that he has conviction in the Wisp read, but all I see in Moleās ISO is declarations that heās unable to push his wolfread because of a lack of traction. In other words, excuses for letting a āwolfā slip away.
Io has other things going for them which might make them town, such as being utterly outlandish and inconsistent, and building universes which donāt seem to make sense in the eyes of most players. Io has also done scummy things which other people have warned them not to do, openly defying people who are generally townread just for the sake of being stubborn and sticking to their guns.
I think thatās villagery. On the other hand, what Mole is doingā¦ isnāt. I could see a villager being silly, OMGUSing me and forgetting that they are here to hunt wolves, but I see more reasons for a wolf doing those things. Different perspective, different needs.
I would be so happy to CFD Wisp, but there isnāt time to pursue a vanity wagon, not in my position at least.
Iāve already explained why it actually makes perfect sense for you to push Wisp here as a villager, and yet youāre not doing that. I donāt see a reason why you wouldnāt.
Is your push W/W?
What kept you alive in Insurgency was two people who knew you were scum not killing you at night. But yes, this is true.
That said, what applies to you doesnāt apply to other players. No two players should be read on the exact same metric, I believe.
No because Iām town.
/Vote Wisp
Yeet the scum and then scum buds tomorrow then
Good morning kitties!!! Iāve really liked a lot of vulgardās posting. Iām going to formulate my own opinion on CallMeIo, probably some time later tomorrow, but I agree that should not be a wagon. Itās a JOAT claim for christās sake! We shouldnāt vote that off today, unless itās obviously fake! Thatās silly!
Going to ISO moleās recent posts to see if they have improved in any way!
Please quote them for me.
Well thatās not a true assessment. Flameo may not have that many posts, but they have more content than a majority of the players here. Did you read the right person?
Please point out posts that you believe are not real solving, or sheeping.
I find it interesting that you call this an excuse. If I remember correctly, you had a similar post, yet on the opposite side of the spectrum.
An excuse to try harder.
Why can a villager not be towncoring your scumreads?
Why not vote your scumreads instead?
This is not a town motivated vote:
I have no thoughts to counter this. From this post on, I will very likely be ignoring your posts unless I see valid reasoning to respond to you. (Like if you finally give a case on me)
I am done giving wolves what they want.
Convince me to vote Wiisp. Perhaps you will be successful.
If youre lynched today and flip villager, you have not given very much content to go off of.
Naked reads and votes do not mean anything from a dead villager.
Give us explainations
Explain your thought process so we can see from your perspective when you can no longer talk
The fact that you are barely concerned about dying, and not giving town anything to work with is not a good look.
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If you had READ, the list, you would have seen it was a list of all townreads, so you clearly did not read it. Completely justified for me to point that out.
This is not a proper sentenceā¦ I am not sure if I can interpret it correctly. Have you gone through Ashā old games? Noo? Then itās valid for me to call you out on that that you were more interested into showing that youād put in effort, then actually put in that effort and do something. Completely justified for me to call that out.
No, I am saying that you know to hit some towny angles like asking for other games in order to metaread. Repeating the fact that we should not tie the vote during the lynch things like this. You handled your posts like a checkbox list of ādo this to get townread traditionallyā. I wondered here if you are the kind of player to posture like that and simultaneously be skilled enough to hit multiple different angles.
Dead town reads have value, because you know they are unbiased. Thatās a completely legit point.
What do you mean trick? I was aiming to get any kind of reaction out of you with that comment, because so far your whole contribution has been beyond lackluster. All you have done is defend one player and poorly at that (Mole). In addition, I was just curious how you came to those names.
You didnāt end up with a conclusion on how this makes me scum gorta. I donāt want to do another ātrickā and have to fill in the blanks here, so please spell it out for everyone.
And like Iāve already said, the fact I think Io is too outlandish to be scum isnāt the type of reasoning I will use to defend them throughout the game. Itās too weak, and it canāt hold water forever. I want Io to do other things than that, things that will make me clear them with no guilty conscience.
By the way, if you think Iām a wolf, why are you doing exactly what Iām instructing you to do?
What makes me inserting funny comments makes me a wolf opposed to anyone else doing, I donāt get it at all
Itās literally just nai
There is no way a wagon starts on me, but I wouldnāt be able to fight one if it did (not that it ever happens)
3pm EsT EODs are absolute garbage for me
Like, if Iām towncoring wolves, I might also be manipulating you into getting yourself yeeted, or into creating another V wagon, or into something else. If you really think Iām a wolf, you should be telling me to heck off and/or counterargue and/or re-evaluate. The fact youāre passively listening to me is actually something I would expect from a wolf who knows they are being pushed by a villager and who is taking advantage of being offered a way out.
How the fuck do you intepret, āHow do you not have a wolf read yetā, as attacking low hanging fruit, you should absolutely have some kind of wolf read by now
What
So your case is nowā¦ their posts are less condensed, so they are scumā¦? I donāt see at all how Io is obvious town.
I thought this was a pretty valid question from them to be honestā¦
I said that I had some doubts, but that doesnāt negate the fact I want to defend them.
In the instance I die, pay attention to this post
Vulgard is a villager. They are providing content that comes straight out of my brain at almost the speed of light.
Listen to Vulgard. He may be wrong at some points, but he is leading town in the right direction and has the mindset needed to win this game.
Do not pass my death off as āElephas was killed so we would listen to Vulgard.ā Do not lose this game because of deepwolf paranoia.
If Vulgard lives to LYLO or we keep mislynching villagers, you are free to re-assess.
If wanted, I can provide a full wallpost on every quote I have said regarding Vulgard - to show my thought process.
It will not be riddled with confirmation bias as it will simply be quotes for you to draw conclusions on yourself.
You interpret it as omgus so you call me a wolf, so any time I make a case on you, itās just, āhaha omgus, obvious wolfā