[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Wisp]

What do you mean?

[Moleland]

I did a lol soul read meme on derps and he was mafia that lived to F3 and won.

[Leafia]

And I was supposed to know that how? It sounded to me that you were claiming that I was scum.

[Moleland]

Improve your reading comprehension then.

[Leafia]

Be more clear then.

[Moleland]

@Wazza stop posting in Vldr and get over here since you are already at L - 4

[Wisp]

Tempted to just policy vote Mole for 429

[CallMeIo]

I’m confident in my TR on Leafia!
I was just suggesting we do a Town Takeover so Scum can’t overcome the barrier and the will of the Town.
We just got to make sure all Town is in our Barrier and we got this win!

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

Tempted to just policy vote Mole for 429

But will you?
/Vote Mole
How about now?

[CallMeIo]

I’ll call your bluff.

[Wisp]

/vote Mole
Don’t tempt me with a good time

[sulit]

waz scum waz scum

[Elephas]

@katze

level 0 take: a wolf probably doesn’t write essentially the same thing twice in one post like this

i’d say im fairly okay at reading him, and of the playerlist i’d like to think im the best at it since arete is a host

by end of day i’ll probably have a fairly confident read on him, i just need him to post more

I could ignore this post and take the towncred, but I think you are misunderstanding me, and perhaps I did not word my thoughts well. In my first post you quoted, I wanted your thoughts behind his other posts; mostly these:

@Vulgard

I am unironically townreading Derps for OwOing. I think as scum he either doesn’t care or makes fun of me, but here he’s expressing curiosity in the weirdest way possible.

Could be a faked post, obviously, but I don’t think wolf!Derps fakes that specific thing. So, yeah.

@Vulgard

“You should be doing things right now” is a wolfy excuse for an early vote on someone. That type of vote is also almost exclusively aimed at a villager (if it comes from a wolf).

If Flameo is a wolf, Io is likely town.

In the second post of mine that you quoted, I was requesting check-ups on Vulgard as this day continues. You say you have a good read on this player, so I want to make sure you… put it to use, for lack of a better phrase. I want to see how your “fairly confident read on him” looks in comparison to mine. Let me know if this doesn’t make sense and I can try to explain it differently.

@CatLover

Right now I cannot say I am a huge fan of ash4fun! His tone and actions both feel very much like a mafia who is trying to blend in with the crowd. It all feels so… forced!

I have to say that I agree. I asked this player a question two hours ago, and they have been active in thread since, so I see no reason for them to not have answered. Suppose I will ask again.

For Ash

@Elephas

@ash4fun

These two posts in particular ping me as towny. Feels like you’ve got a good idea of what needs to get done and trying to do it–sort of vibe.

Elephas looks like he’s trying to do the work, but with just a bit more defensiveness (a normal level, not hyper-defensive)

These two takes don’t say very much. I would love a bit more detail as to why those posts ping you as townie. Which if my posts make you feel like I am “trying to do the work?” And why do you not townread other players who are attempting to solve, such as Cat?

@ash4fun

Their reads are inconsistent. If they townread me and Flame-person (I forgot your name) for being proactive… I don’t understand why you are not in this group. In fact, I have been far more “absent” from the thread than you have, so I can’t quite see how they missed you and spotted me. It feels like they do not believe in this read.

@Moleland

I wouldn’t say I was accusing. It was just pinging me as potential scum behaviour.

Although it was interesting to note how he backed off and voted elsewhere after I said that.

You note this, but what do you think of it?

@Centuries

I belive it’s fairly presumptuous for you to read her this early when it’s been shown meta doesn’t really work and can be used in any way you want regarding her slot

@Centuries

Mole attitude towards Leafia is weird but I can see the approach and antagonization as a townie thing when trying to push a slot such as Leafia, I’m being kinda flipfloppy there because I’ve already been part of the let’s ML Leafia D1 gang as scum

Hm. Your take on Leafia seems to rely almost entirely on meta, and I don’t see a solid stance. If you were to disregard meta, how would you feel about this player?

@Centuries

Also guys please stop the overwhelming meta I know it’s hard for some slots like Leafia’s but let’s try and avoid it

Curious.

@Centuries

And yeah okay to be fair I’m prone to TRing good players instead of townie players so I’d have to analyze this at one point

(Quoting the above as it is the final sentence in Centuries’ wallpost). I find it interesting that this player hops into the game and immediately provides reads and analysis. Usually I would consider this a scumtell, but they seem rather nonchalant; not as if they are trying to fit in. I rather like their unconcerned and comfortable tone.

@Leafia

This is where it started. I like that you started analyzing other people as ig shows a desire to actually solve the game instead of focusing solely on me.

This is a fine response. I do, however, wish it was brought up as you moved your vote off of me.

@ash4fun

As I said, nothing of yours has jumped out to me.

@ash4fun

although; I do appeciate the >=2 isominiwalls you’ve made.

Interesting, and contradictory. Please do analyze these “isominiwalls.” I will hold you to this.

@Leafia

Here’s my reads on everyone so far.

• SirDerpsALot: Hmmmm, tough to say for sure, but slight townlean. I like his tone so far.
• Wazza: Can’t remember much of anything from him, so null for now.
• Centuries: I don’t care much for how he’s defending Wiisp a bit in a way for scummy behavior, so scumleaning him.
• CatLover: Has a lot if good posts and shows a lot of effort to solve the game, so townreading him.
• Vulgard: Just popped in and out not really saying much. Very slight scumlean
• an_gorta_pratai: Has he even posted yet? I can’t remember. Null.
• sulit: I know he posted but I don’t remember much from him. Null
• CallMeIo: Null on this one too. Don’t remember too much of what he posted.
• Elephas: ines scumreading him earlier due to his take on me and how it felt but he has since improved. Townlean.
• Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.
• Moleland: This is one of two slots I’m most sure of. I hate his tone. Scumread
• ash4fun: His tone seems good so he’s a townlean for now.
• katze: They were like this in my last game with them too and they were town. Townread.
• Wisp: This is the slot that I dislike the most. Her push on Katze just feels like agenda to me.
• Flameo: His tone seems good so slight townlean.

Quite early for this. I don’t particularly like read-lists, and especially not those with a simple sentence on each player. You have not shown progression on a few of these slots, and I don’t remember seeing any posts from you regarding some of these players; the two that stick out are Derps and Flameo, who you seem to have reads on, but I don’t remember any interactions with you and them?
Please, do correct me if I’m wrong, and please also show me why you feel the way you do about these slots.

@CallMeIo

Call me Bias.
But I TR Leafia for Bolded .

CallmeIo has more posts than me, and I don’t remember half of them. I just went and skimmed their Isolation, and I find that I like their tone and comfort-level. Nothing feels stilted. I would like fewer one-liners, and more in-depth reads from them.

@Leafia

Because it feels like you’re trying to make someone that’s scummy look like a townie. Like you’re trying to potentially save a scumbuddy.

Ah another Wolf/Wolf read. Do explain.

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I will be moving my vote to Ash until I get content that I am content with. (What an odd sentence)

/vote ash4fun @Arete

[Elephas]

I am no longer at work, so I am able to answer questions, if there are any for me. But they may be delayed.

Regardless, I am here.

[Elephas]

@sulit

waz scum waz scum

Can you explain this please? I assume this player has a postcount-tell?

[Wisp]

I am here as well, but I’m going to spend some time rereading

I don’t do walls though, you will get what you get

[sulit]

@sulit

Waz doesn’t like playin scum

He has more energy as town

He has no energy here

[Centuries]

@Elephas

Hm. Your take on Leafia seems to rely almost entirely on meta, and I don’t see a solid stance. If you were to disregard meta, how would you feel about this player?

It’s more of a lack of take that relies on meta?

She LAMISTs
She OMGUSes
She does dumbstuff

as either alignment and I believe it is too early to read Leafia off of her bad play and she’s stilll pretty easy to read by using content

You read what and why she does stuff not how

@Elephas

Curious

Wasn’t really my intent but I understand your reasoning for thinking I’m meta reading her slot

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Wait my shrug is missing its left arm

[Arete]

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
sulit	katze	1/8
CallMeIo	Flameo	1/8
Wiisp	Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland	3/8
Flameo	Vulgard	1/8
Moleland	CallMeIo, Wiisp	2/8
ash4fun	CatLover, Elephas	2/8
Wazza	sulit	1/8

[Centuries]

why does my post have no grammar