Ok, I see it, Moleland was being very antagonistic to Leafia
Just read 115 to 147 then. Itās a short interaction in my opinion.
Has your read on me changed now that you have reread that?
@katze
I have a question, your iso dive has Vulgard as someone who has posts written by a villager, yet you randomly ask for reads, āor dieā
like even with the context a few posts being, āI will look at you disapprovinglyā
I still donāt understand it
Ya after rereading everything your progression makes more sense
i saw him in thread and remembered that i hadnāt seen much of him for a while
like i said in my thoughts posts he didnāt have that one post that convinced me he was a villager yet
but his posting has been fine and since then (just caught up) I think heās still moderately towny
still havenāt seen the post to lock it in though
(also the wording was half a reference to a prior game)
Can you talk about someone that isnāt me?
It was literally in my summary list
Like, if wagons are V/V then Flameo failing to say anything meaningful about either of them is a horrendous look.
Moleland ISO
This one pings me hard. They say theyāre interested in someone defending someone else, but instead of asking why or looking for good/bad reasoning, they just call it scummy and move on. Also this is hedgy af.
This just feels like open shading. Leafiaās posts that these reference seem reasonable to me, and afaict thereās literally nothing here.
I disagree with this. In context, the extra bit makes sense coming from town. Mole again feels like heās pushing nothing.
Elephas: Moleland:Iām interested in your chainsaw defence/whiteknighting of Leafia. Slight scum lean for it atm.
This is a rather serious accusation. From my understanding, a chainsaw defense implies both players are scum, no? A scum lean doesnāt seem to add up with this. Please expand on this thought process.
I wouldnāt say I was accusing. It was just pinging me as potential scum behaviour.
Although it was interesting to note how he backed off and voted elsewhere after I said that.
I think I like this even less than the original. Theyāre backpedaling on a hedge and shading. Like wtf
Antagonising sure. But I never said you were scum.
And I know, it was derps
More backtracking, theyāve been calling leafia bad (if not scummy) the whole game. nvm this is about what happened in anther game.
Why is Sullit underwhelming?
One of my few townreads tbh.
I didnāt see anything about this beforeā¦
Why donāt you get things done instead of being abusive?
Hypocritical much?
I have 3 votes
You have 1.Iām still playing and looking for clues and trying to make things happen. You should to
To be completely honest, Iām not seeing any of that.
11 hours until end of day huh? Iāll start my readlist but am working currently, will have time either way to get them out.
Tldr reads though
- SirDerpsALot - Nulltown
- Wazza - Unhelpfultown
- Centuries - Null
- CatLover - Weak null
- Vulgard - In a box marked āDo not bother trying to read until day 3ā
- an_gorta_pratai - Lazytown
- sulit - Townlean
- CallMeIo - Nullscum
- Elephae - Nullleantown
- Leafia - Weaktown
- Moleland -Goat
- ash4fun - Nullscum
- katze - Null
- Wisp - Weakscum
- Flameo - Null
Thatās a lot of nulls. Seems consistent with what theyāve posted so far, tho.
Ok my full reads in order
Vulgard - In a box marked āDo not bother trying to read until day 3ā
Already elaborated on. Never lynch thisan_gorta_pratai - Lazy(But improving)town
I donāt think scum would allow Gorta to do so little in thread. However I do like most f their recent postsWazza - Unhelpfultown
Regrettably, I donāt think Wazzaās scumbuds would allow him to be such a dick to people. Annoyingly, heās town imoLeafia - Weaktown
Make her irrated or angry and she spills her scumminess. Thatās what happened for me. I was happy playing āScum Leafiaā Bingo. I was just waiting for her to self meta and say āOnly town me would do Xā or āIf I was scum I would do.Yā andā¦ Huh. They said it wasnāt AI? That was unexpected. Maturing scum game or their town game? Not sure tbh - but want to believe the latter. Should re eval their read on me because it is a mix of Salt and misunderstanding my opening post/s at the moment.sulit - Townlean
I think her push on Wazza came from a genuine place, and was dripping with Town motivation.SirDerpsALot - Nulltown
This feels like a safe, normal derps game to me. No interest in lynching this slotEleph - Nullleantown
Is contributing well enough so far that I donāt have any misgivings here for now.Centuries - Null
Cent is kindaā¦ Existing? For me. Nothing theyāve done makes me see them either waykatze - Null
There most recent posts are better, but they in general havenāt done enough to justify me reading them as anything other than null.Flameo - Null
Their massive defence of Leafia was really odd, on top demamding me to have anything really to say when the game had barely started. I had a mild scumlean for that. But since then, Iāve been happy with their posts and they have moved back to a null.CatLover - Weak null
Similar to Cent butā¦ Their posts seem pretty fluffy and useless tbh. Iām going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now though.CallMeIo - Nullscum
As others mentioned, their posts are pretty underwhelmingā¦ But they seem to revel in this. I donāt like it.ash4fun - Nullscum
Seem to be getting a lot of hate but Iām not sure I agree tbh. A scumish ping for me is how they seem to only react to the thread rather than progress anything of their own.Wisp - Weakscum
I hate people who self meta for no reason. They, in my experience, are scum. Strike 1. Add onto this a lot of weak questions of people I pretty sure this is scum.
I donāt really understand how āIām pretty sure this is scumā is only āweakscumā. Could be consistent with scum trying to not offend, could just be how they label stuff doesnāt really reflect the strength of the read as Iām used to.
So thereās my case on Mole.
Going through the iso, Iām finding a lot of stuff I consider wolfy like shading and hedging. Also more nullreads than I think a normal town player should have at this point in the game.
One thing I didnāt really find was agenda though. They donāt seem to actually be trying to push the exe or town consensus any particular direction.
So yeah this is why I think mole is the exe for today. Itād make me happy if someone did something of the same sort for me, but it might be too late in the day for that.
TL;DR:
yāall should vote mole
I can say I really didnt like his wall above with the quick fire answers to quotes (Vulgard I mean)
SirDerpsAlot:Iād like to lynch in
Catlover/sulit/Wazza/Wiisp
why/Why/whY/WHY.
Wazza:Why would you put me and sulit in the same lynch pool.
That just seems counter productive.
What is this post?
SirDerpsAlot:Scoooom
Okay.
SirDerpsAlot:they scumread both mole and flameo but they scumread flameo for voting mole
unless they thing mole was voting flameo a wolf buddy this doesnāt make sense and IMO shows not much real analysis and instead is likely to be agenda
I see where youāre coming from, but I respectfully disagree. Seems to be an obvious contradiction, but Iāve made the same mistake as town numerous times, even in this game.
Wisp:scum slips arent feel (for the most part)
Yes.
Wisp:I canāt read sarcasm
Me neither.
ash4fun:idk but reading this feels more like ābuying good playā/setting up future sr, than actually solving.
Tbh reading vulgard again he actually feels a lot better. I remember that post pinged me but the other stuff is actually pretty good.
I donāt like making reads like āthis person is definitely X.ā I prefer to be realistic, scumread me for that all you want.
Centuries:this is a no though lmao why is it always wisp reads
Hot take: the amount of attention on Wisp probably makes Wisp town because wolves would probably want to shift the attention to a townie.
Leafia keeps pinging me both ways and I hate that. The posts about people potentially being W/W is something I associate with her wolfgame. On the other hand, her overall ISO looks better than the ones Iāve seen from her when she was scum.
Ugh. Probably not yeeting today.
sulit:/vote ash
wheeeeee
I hate how this vote distances ash wagon from the Mole wagon for no apparent reason.
but then imagine ash claims joat and i sleep
If I am JOAT, I will claim at Eod-20 if I think I need to.
Going through the iso, Iām finding a lot of stuff I consider wolfy like shading and hedging. Also more nullreads than I think a normal town player should have at this point in the game.
One thing I didnāt really find was agenda though. They donāt seem to actually be trying to push the exe or town consensus any particular direction.
So yeah this is why I think mole is the exe for today. Itād make me happy if someone did something of the same sort for me, but it might be too late in the day for that.
TL;DR:
yāall should vote mole
Paragraph 1: Mole shades a lot, hedges a lot, and has too many nullreads. Scummy.
Paragraph 2: But he has no agendaā¦
Paragraph 3: But he should still die.
Paragraph 4: You should vote him.
I feel like thereās something off about this progression. Itās like you saw signs of towniness (lack of agenda) and decided to ignore them (you want Mole dead anyway).
The only thing preventing me from swapping me vote is that the progression is rather blatant.
Those two read lists are pretty awful, and the modifiers just seem unnecessary
like wth even is a weak-null
CatLover - Weak null
Wisp - Weakscum
I hate people who self meta for no reason. They, in my experience, are scum. Strike 1. Add onto this a lot of weak questions of people I pretty sure this is scum.
this is so level-0
his thoughts on Flameo are fine
Regrettably, I donāt think Wazzaās scumbuds would allow him to be such a dick to people. Annoyingly, heās town imo
this post is a reach
katze - Null
There most recent posts are better, but they in general havenāt done enough to justify me reading them as anything other than null.
this is a lie
who has played with Mole before?
My decision was that if they are just trying to float around and avoid suspicion, they wouldnāt look like theyre trying to misexe townies.
Youāre a lie.
Weak null is that I donāt like there fluffiness but Iām not sure it is town or scum
Flameo:Now that I see Vulgard is here, I dislike even more how he has surface level treated Wispā read as if it was a gift of the gods, even though it was a completely unrelated point to anything what they were saying earlier in regards to me.
Can you talk about someone that isnāt me?
If you addressed my points instead of ignoring or sidestepping them, then I would have no need to bring them up again.
Like, if wagons are V/V then Flameo failing to say anything meaningful about either of them is a horrendous look.
This is objectively false, I have been vocal on Ashe.