[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

Ok, I see it, Moleland was being very antagonistic to Leafia

Just read 115 to 147 then. Itā€™s a short interaction in my opinion.

@Moleland
Hey, whats your read on Leafia now?

Has your read on me changed now that you have reread that?

@katze
I have a question, your iso dive has Vulgard as someone who has posts written by a villager, yet you randomly ask for reads, ā€œor dieā€

like even with the context a few posts being, ā€œI will look at you disapprovinglyā€
I still donā€™t understand it

Ya after rereading everything your progression makes more sense

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i saw him in thread and remembered that i hadnā€™t seen much of him for a while

like i said in my thoughts posts he didnā€™t have that one post that convinced me he was a villager yet

but his posting has been fine and since then (just caught up) I think heā€™s still moderately towny

still havenā€™t seen the post to lock it in though

(also the wording was half a reference to a prior game)

Can you talk about someone that isnā€™t me?

It was literally in my summary list

Like, if wagons are V/V then Flameo failing to say anything meaningful about either of them is a horrendous look.

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Moleland ISO

This one pings me hard. They say theyā€™re interested in someone defending someone else, but instead of asking why or looking for good/bad reasoning, they just call it scummy and move on. Also this is hedgy af.

This just feels like open shading. Leafiaā€™s posts that these reference seem reasonable to me, and afaict thereā€™s literally nothing here.

I disagree with this. In context, the extra bit makes sense coming from town. Mole again feels like heā€™s pushing nothing.

I think I like this even less than the original. Theyā€™re backpedaling on a hedge and shading. Like wtf

More backtracking, theyā€™ve been calling leafia bad (if not scummy) the whole game. nvm this is about what happened in anther game.

I didnā€™t see anything about this beforeā€¦

Hypocritical much?

To be completely honest, Iā€™m not seeing any of that.

Thatā€™s a lot of nulls. Seems consistent with what theyā€™ve posted so far, tho.

I donā€™t really understand how ā€œIā€™m pretty sure this is scumā€ is only ā€œweakscumā€. Could be consistent with scum trying to not offend, could just be how they label stuff doesnā€™t really reflect the strength of the read as Iā€™m used to.


So thereā€™s my case on Mole.

Going through the iso, Iā€™m finding a lot of stuff I consider wolfy like shading and hedging. Also more nullreads than I think a normal town player should have at this point in the game.

One thing I didnā€™t really find was agenda though. They donā€™t seem to actually be trying to push the exe or town consensus any particular direction.

So yeah this is why I think mole is the exe for today. Itā€™d make me happy if someone did something of the same sort for me, but it might be too late in the day for that.

TL;DR:
yā€™all should vote mole

I can say I really didnt like his wall above with the quick fire answers to quotes (Vulgard I mean)

If I am JOAT, I will claim at Eod-20 if I think I need to.

Paragraph 1: Mole shades a lot, hedges a lot, and has too many nullreads. Scummy.
Paragraph 2: But he has no agendaā€¦
Paragraph 3: But he should still die.
Paragraph 4: You should vote him.

I feel like thereā€™s something off about this progression. Itā€™s like you saw signs of towniness (lack of agenda) and decided to ignore them (you want Mole dead anyway).

The only thing preventing me from swapping me vote is that the progression is rather blatant.

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Those two read lists are pretty awful, and the modifiers just seem unnecessary
like wth even is a weak-null

this is so level-0

his thoughts on Flameo are fine

this post is a reach

this is a lie

who has played with Mole before?

My decision was that if they are just trying to float around and avoid suspicion, they wouldnā€™t look like theyre trying to misexe townies.

/vote Moleland
@Arete
@DatBird

Youā€™re a lie.

Weak null is that I donā€™t like there fluffiness but Iā€™m not sure it is town or scum

If you addressed my points instead of ignoring or sidestepping them, then I would have no need to bring them up again.

This is objectively false, I have been vocal on Ashe.