[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

@Prophylaxis

What is your read on me and SPF?

@Marluxion

What is your read on SPF?

spfā€™s readlist post is really good and my brain gave me pleasant feelings when reading it. i will have more comprehensive thoughts on it tomorrow when iā€™m not very sleepy

i think out of all of these names, i would take a look at marl but it would depend a lot on how wisp and will flip. if those slots are both town then i really would put marl under a microscope given that he focused on vulg/windward/will for most of day 1. i guess heā€™s sorta focusing on alice right now but out of everyone in that POE, i would take a look at him later on depending on flips. i do not have the same range of experience as you do with him, though i just got out of game(s) with him as a wolf where he was pretty underwhelming, which is making me content with taking marl off the table for at least the next couple of game days

(i also donā€™t really understand why marl is voting alice)

i would look towards meta to check this read, because iirc people have been saying that leafia really struggles with TMI and is hyper cognizant of her buddies as wolf. the post where she singled out windward and talked directly with her, i agree with you though is not likely to be partnered.

alice, i think one of you is a villager and one of you is a wolf trying to pocket the other

iā€™ve been trying to solve spf today because no one else has been doing so. tomorrow morning, time permitting i will look at you since i also feel like you have not been examined as closely as you should be. i will make a decision then

the fact that both of you, i assume, have good to insane wolfgames is making this task harder than it should be

wtf does the bolded mean?

i have never played with the cat before, just watched her goat as a wolf in FAM

why do you think Alice is a wolf?

shush, iā€™ve been trying to solve spf today. i know i havenā€™t been playing great for most of the game, but you donā€™t get to call my posts uninspiring.

like you, iā€™m not in the business of hunting deepwolves before we clear out people in the poe. thatā€™s more of a late game thing. catch the easiest wolves first and then work backwards

wtf? iā€™ve been pretty consistently holding reservations against lunching emilia. please point to me where you think iā€™ve been angling her as an ā€œeasy mischopā€.

Why canā€™t we be V/V or W/W?

Iā€™ve kinda been trying the approach of getting enough confident village reads and then lynching outside them to deal with SPF, tbfh.

Sheā€™s probably the best wolf on the playerlist outside maybe me so Iā€™m fairly wary.

Iā€™ve never villaged against her, but she has villaged against me and she can confirm this. :^)

Mostly irt to the earlier part of d2.

It kinda felt odd how you were hyperfocusing on her earlier on and then just dropped it by accepting peoples meta-reads on her like that.

explain this?

i think sheā€™s made a huge effort to integrate herself more in the gamestate compared to yesterday. d1 imo she was a scientist observing her specimens, only popping in to make us consider town vulgard worlds (which in retrospect we should have considered)

Mostly when it comes irt pushes.

She kind of just lightly pushed Wispā€™s slot today and unvoted.

From experience with her she tends to have a more aggressive playstyle when she villages.

where was i hyperfocusing on her? i donā€™t think iā€™ve ever been focused on emilia this game, and especially not the earlier part of day 2 (where all i did was ask her if she actually ever read my posts?)

Wait, nvm.

It was around post 2000 that I was reading your interactions with Emilia and it was only a short spurt rather than a hyperfocus.

idk, she kinda just voted windward mid day 1 because ā€œwe need more wagonsā€ and then pushed for emilia on eod1

did you read her responses to me regarding her detective vs collaborative playstyle, and the stuff regarding the thread pushing her away because of all the meta arguments or something?

are you saying that she would have pushed for more people this game if she was v?

iā€™ll answer your 2547 tomorrow alice, really need to get to bed

judging from the answers iā€™ve previously given you today, you should be able to come to this conclusion yourself though

will give you the answer sheet tomorrow if you cannot

I am kinda opposite on eli/will rn from you.

I feel like willā€™s frustation with his townread being lynched is somewhat > rand V

whereas Eliā€™s read feels like he messily completed homework assigment that he really didnt want to do.
This is, because he instantly dipped from thread after dropping the wolfread without even bothering interacting with me or anyone else even though I was in thread. Also 1 of his points misunderstood what my post was saying due to lack of context which he never acknowledged after I pointed out.

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Yeah. The thing is that Iā€™m kind of at an impasse when it comes to SPF, tbfh. Like, from what Iā€™ve remembered from her village game she tends to be far more probing than her play here. But the thing is due to the site differences where sheā€™s less accustomed to discourse and has no prior knowledge to the ranges of Emilia/Arctic/GGhana/Leafia/Eli then I understand why she feels kind of more underwhelming than usual.

Itā€™s basically why Iā€™ve decided to approach SPF by finding enough villagers, keeping her in the PoE, and then chopping her once enough confident villagers are found, tbh.

This doesnā€™t really sound like itā€™s frustration?

reffering to this

Is Emilia town off of other reasons than meta? I donā€™t feel comfortable clearing her for just meta after meowtainado

town

Becauseā€¦?

itā€™s multiple microreads iā€™ve had across the game so far

first her posting multiple times in a row felt like me when nobody else is in thread when iā€™m town

also her finding eli as town on day 1

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