[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

does anyone here suspect leafia at all? if not, i might just consider her a spewed villager lol

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this post contrasts awkwardly with your post here: [VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 1 (13/13) - #839 by willtaylor

youā€™re saying that it is ā€œvery easyā€ to justify pushing you based on your play, but you are also claiming that the wolves havenā€™t tried to push on you hard yet because the push on you lacks substance. isnā€™t it usually one or the other?

willā€™s tone feels both flat & stressed out

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whatā€™s your takeaway from this?

willā€™s ISO is ā€¦pretty rough. he throws shade on emilia almost immediately and stays fixated on her throughout his entire ISO. will has outed two reads in this game (vulgard V and emilia W, unless im missing any) and both of them are stagnant and not really being used as a springboard for more solving. it always feels icky to push on newer players that are just getting into the game but i could theoretically see willā€™s ISO being both so barren and *oddly consistent *in reads because heā€™s struggling with TMI

gamer read: chloe/vulgard is probably not T v T

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the way that vulgard de-escalated his read on chloe and started townreading her and the way that chloe has continued pursuing her suspicions against vulgard (presumably alluding to a very spicy wolfread on him in her last post that she didnā€™t elaborate further on) doesnā€™t really feel like a town v town dynamic between two players who know each other quite well? like in 90% of cases i would say a dynamic like this is wolf/town

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the dynamic between proph/chloe is probably not W/W, in case this becomes relevant later. the way that chloe did the whole: ā€œi just canā€™t HELP but townread prophā€™s wallpostsā€ thing is not generally the way that a wolf justifies townreading their partner

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current townlist is artic/leafia/alice and iā€™m perturbed at my inability to expand that list so far. not many people have felt ~distinctly~ villagery to me even if a lot of you feel villagery on a textbook level

aliceā€™s drop in presence today ā€¦could be concerning but the first half of her day was so villagery that im not worrying about it right now

ok so Iā€™m on melatonin and Iā€™m very sleepy but I wanted to get this out before I forgot

honestly

I feel like proph might be bussing Vulgard

Itā€™s been kinda sitting in my mind for the past few hours and I didnā€™t really entertain it because looking at the playerlist it didnā€™t really make sense

but like looking at the setup bussing kinda does make sense actually? And like Vulgardā€™s posting is just so shit that it almost feels intentional and Prophā€™s posting around Vul does kinda fit with him having tmi that Vulgard is a wolf

so I guess my PoE for today officially ā„¢ļø Is marl/proph/Vulgard/will

I donā€™t know exactly.

Chloe sounds almost forcefully interrogative.

I understand that Emilia has either a very unique playstyle (compared to others her) or sheā€™s a wolf.

this is a thought that iā€™m very interested in hearing you expand on - are there any posts in particular from proph that felt indicative of him having TMI on vulgardā€™s alignment? why is the suspicion against vulgard bussing and not just a villager authentically finding vulgard wolfy?

you think that sheā€™s a wolf though, right?

And Chloe did pick up on this.

I also donā€™t see the problem in fixating on one clear wolf-read if weā€™re lynching one single person today. More information comes to us as the game progresses.

itā€™s just like general vibes

it doesnā€™t actually feel like proph has any doubt in his mind that vul is a wolf

it feels like he knows that vul is a wolf even if the reasons arenā€™t the best?

and again, vulā€™s posting has been absolutely abysmal, like the worst Iā€™ve ever seen regardless of his alignment and itā€™s weirding me out

Iā€™m almost certain that he wouldnā€™t get into this situation as a wolf if he wasnā€™t getting bussed by someone

Emilia? Iā€™d bet sheā€™s a wolf. I also understand the other possibility.

Itā€™s felt like proph has been focusing today on getting Vulgard killed over solving, making useable posts that arenā€™t about Vulgard, etc

which is just not what I think a villager like proph does, it feels like an excuse to not post anything else of substance

and also I think his tunnel is bullshit, and generally bullshit wolf tunnels have a decent chance to be busses tbh

ehhh but proph has been, at least, externally doubtful about whether or not vulgard is a wolf. he made an entire wallpost just a little while ago expressing how uncertain he feels about his read on vulgard. so youā€™re saying that it ā€œfeelsā€ like proph knows that vulgard is a wolf when heā€™s saying the explicit opposite of that. it isnā€™t impossible that proph is bussing vulgard but i donā€™t think thereā€™s any particular evidence that points to that world being the case

and fwiw i do agree that vulgardā€™s posting in this game is notably disinvested compared to any other game iā€™ve seen from him - i suspect that the lack of investment is unrelated to his alignment, so im a little uncomfy making reads on that basis

i feel like im playing defense for vulgard but in reality i just have no idea what his alignment is

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wait how did I miss this

can you link it