Voting for classes (VFC/VFR)

voting for classes is an active way to play the game. requires scum read, etc.

most people are idiots.

  1. priest
  2. all strategies have risks. not revealing prince has the risk of unseen getting lucky and assassinating prince; had he been revealed, a knight would be on him.

Oh yeah?

No comment.

VFC has no benefit to scum reading. Against a smart scum, VFC will hurt BD in very bad ways. ā€œmost people are idiots.ā€ being currently the dumbest ā€˜contributionā€™ to your own thread. Frostwolf, PokemonKidRyan, Orangeandblack, Tardiswolf, among them are many of the smartest players in ToL and have never once needed to Vote for Class on a game of Throne of Lies.

Speaking of which, Throne of Lies has thrived from not having VFC involved, because everyone that plays TOL knows how much of a ball-ache it is.

So you go ahead, call ā€œmost peopleā€ idiots, at the end of the day, people are actually a lot smarter than you make them out to be.

Oh behind of ā€œmost peopleā€ I say,
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t(ā€™^'t) Toodlepip.

A little lesson on power:

  1. power is always moving
    power is never stagnate; your factionā€™s power is constantly either increasing or decreasing. if you are not acting, you are being acted upon

  2. the types of power
    There is power to kill enemies at night, ability to execute, and ability to know your allies.
    Scum possess the third, blue dragon have the second. 1 falls into scum hands if blue dragon killers canā€™t get the info they need.

More lessons on power.
Take the throne to act and the throne shall act on you

You know what,

I actually really want you to apologize for your comment on ā€œmost people are idiots.ā€ because most of the players in the Throne of Lies community are some I would consider my friends. No. Actually, I demand one. An apology to ā€œmost peopleā€ right now.

Iā€™m a abit stuipd in way, but I am not an idiot. If anybody is an idiot here its you Rope. Not trying to provoke you its just what I think of you

  1. smart scum are rare.
  2. putting players on the spot increases their chance of making a mistake when faking journals.

you have said things like this many times. this particular statement has not had itā€™s reasoning provided; this is pure dogma.

you donā€™t need to VFC to win as bd, all it does is increase your chances.

Also, great appeal to authority. Appeal to authority is one of the most well know fallacies.

Because ToS players are stupid and do it wrong.

(you get to appeal to authority, then so do I) Socrates hated democracy because it was based upon the foundation that the people make rational decisions.

the majority got Hitler elected. (excuse my ā€œadhitlerumā€ fallacy)

the majority cause mob hysteria.

why do you think millions of dollars are spent for campaigns in the united states? Because the people are not persuaded by fact, but by slogans, social pressure, etc.

Iā€™m an idiot too.

However, when there is enough information out there through VFC, I can piece things together.

I donā€™t see an apology so muting this thread.

ā€œMost peopleā€ arenā€™t idiots. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Ganhdi are in the ā€œMost Peopleā€ category. ARe they idiots?

they are more than 7 billion people alive.

if their were 5 people, then yes, they would make the most people category.

Also, what makes them ā€œmost peopleā€? I never said that the stupid are those who grew up poor, without connections, etc.

Didnā€™t address my point Rope.

just did.

jeez, sorry for taking more than a few minutes to construct arguments xD

This is my point.

No. Their not.

MY point was they are not ā€œmost peopleā€

I tire of this. Just say sorry about what you said, which is VERY insulting. Then we can move past it

ā€œJust agree with me, Iā€™m clearly rightā€

demanding apologies furthers the toxic-ness of this thread.

Not what I am implying. Just say your sorry because what you said is insulting AF

By the way, just a side note because it pissed me off.

My quote: ā€œmost people are idiots.ā€ being currently the dumbest ā€˜contributionā€™ to your own thread.

Normā€™s response: you have said things like this many times. this particular statement has not had itā€™s reasoning provided; this is pure dogma.

I have never once called ā€œmost peopleā€ idiots. I have a lot more respect for people that this. You canā€™t say shit like ā€œoh he said it so i can say itā€ because it doesnā€™t work that way, even if I had said something like that, which Iā€™ll say again, I have not.

Iā€™m curious to thinking, do you think that anybody who doesnā€™t VFC is an idiot? Because more than ā€œmost peopleā€ donā€™t use VFC. Mainly because ā€œmost peopleā€ like to enjoy the game and not have it ruined by constant trials and prolonged games of just guessing if somebody is telling truth or lie one after another. I bet ā€œmost peopleā€ actually prefer not VFCā€™ing. ā€œmost peopleā€ I know actually hate VFC, that we mock those who attempt it ingame.

What it comes down to is, by saying ā€œmost people are idiotsā€ you are insulting the general population of Throne of Lies and I still havenā€™t seen an apology.