Wild West FM - Day 5 - Mafia Win!

[Thunal33]

Wait or maybe Gorta, but I know not Apprentice.

[an_gorta_pratai]

Luxy wasn’t generally townread and was killed for a reason. Was it that he had good reads? Was it that wolves didn’t like his ideas about wolves being townread?

[ash4fun]

I think here we see a key difference in how the game works.

You seem to be argueing that because the part of the PoE that has flipped is mostly town, the rest of must be mostly town.
(I don’t really understand the logic behind it ftr)

The way I see it, the PoE is still the most likely place for wolves to be. Since part that has flipped is mostly town, the rest must be mostly scum.

And right now, it looks like the wolves have run out of LHF’s, so they need to find somewhere else to escape to.

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In general, it’s a lot easier for scum to direct town toward the wrong targets and LHF’s, than it is for scum to completely fool town and make a whole class of townies look like scum.

[Thunal33]

“Wolves didn’t like his ideas” isn’t generally a good reason to kill someone, I don’t think I’ve seen a kill motivated by that before. I’d say it’s reads or just to confuse town and steer them in the wrong direction.

[Thunal33]

But there aren’t many people from our PoE left and I don’t think the people left (Apprentice, Sulit, Gorta) are actually scum.

[Thunal33]

I’m a bit discouraged because the numbers are 10:4 which is very scumsided for mountainous.

[an_gorta_pratai]

@ash4fun

You seem to be argueing that because the part of the PoE that has flipped is mostly town, the rest of must be mostly town.
(I don’t really understand the logic behind it ftr)

remember that damn Visionary PoE in SFoL 63? in the end it contained 99% town and I never said we shouldn’t abandon the PoE, but that we should look beyond that as well

[Marshal]

ITA’s start in 30 minutes

[an_gorta_pratai]

If our PoE flips mostly town then there is a chance that wolves are influencing said PoE, but for that to happen they would have to have thread influence and be town read (like Alice in that last game). Are you starting to understand what I mean?

[an_gorta_pratai]

@ash4fun If you think that the current PoE contains the last wolves then case that PoE. Part of re-evaluating everything means looking at everything. If you believe there are wolves in said PoE find them because we can’t afford another day like yesterday.

[an_gorta_pratai]

PoE shots without reason are off limits today and anyone who does do a shot like that should be considered openwolfing. I want to see a detailed ISO for every shot today and not just “lol this scum”

[ash4fun]

Thunal’s ISO of intensify (which I never actually read)

@Thunal33

This is an odd self vote since he never actually follows up on it or states what he wanted to achieve with it.

@Thunal33

Calls Seth TWTBAW which doesn’t make sense and is a really weak defense. He also says Seth can change his playstyle as scum, but waits for him to change his playstyle to call him town. What kind of reasoning is that?

IIoA

@Thunal33

This again. This post feels way too certain that Seth is town.

The way this is phrased makes it seem like intensify town??

@Thunal33

He called Seth TWTBAW but he’s backtracking here. His earlier posts gave a strong indication he was townreading Seth.

Still IIoA, also not even necessarily scummy to do

@Thunal33

This is about townleaning Whysper. I didn’t quote all of it but Intensify’s townread of Whysper right from the start without much doubt feels kind of TMI. Town would question their read on a lurker at least a little.

This is a stretch

@Thunal33

This is about Intensify’s town games. In the town game I skimmed Intensify put in much more effort and seemed way more invested in his reads than he is here.

This part is the only part I thikn actually shows thunal evaluating intensify.

I kinda wish I had read this before signing up for the CFD bc this honestly sucks

[ash4fun]

@an_gorta_pratai

PoE shots without reason are off limits today and anyone who does do a shot like that should be considered openwolfing. I want to see a detailed ISO for every shot today and not just “lol this scum”

I’ll veto this as soon as the thread isn’t clogged by wolves

[Thunal33]

What I also want to see today is everyone posting their intent to shoot before they actually shoot. Like just a short post saying “I want to shoot x” so people can give feedback before the shot.

[ash4fun]

Also it just occurred to me last night so I don’t blame if anyone else missed it but did it occur to anyone that app voting themselves is likely just antispew?

Also refusing to self-pres at luxy’s request

[ash4fun]

@Thunal33

What I also want to see today is everyone posting their intent to shoot before they actually shoot. Like just a short post saying “I want to shoot x” so people can give feedback before the shot.

I’ll second this

[an_gorta_pratai]

Let’s start with that re-eval thing. Why do you think the thread is clogged with wolves? Why is my suggestion bad? This statement implies that you have scum reads on most of the people here, so I want you to explain that position.

@ash4fun

Also it just occurred to me last night so I don’t blame if anyone else missed it but did it occur to anyone that app voting themselves is likely just antispew?

Also refusing to self-pres at luxy’s request

App is someone I want to look at and talk about more today

@ash4fun

I’ll second this

This is basically what I said with “I want to see a detailed ISO for why someone is scummy before shooting”

[Thunal33]

@Trochilidae Is this your first FM game anywhere or just on this forum?

[Thunal33]

I’m kind of clueless at this point and I’m pretty sure the rest of town is.

[an_gorta_pratai]

That was for Ash, who was implying that the thread is currently clogged with wolves, so I wanted his answer for why he thought that.