[Winter Event] JoaTJoaTJoaT13 - Mafia wins!

@Arctic I am willing to vote Intensify right now, and then instantly self-vote tomorrow. This will lose us the game. Is this what you wish for?

i donā€™t want to hammer, i want to wait for maple to say something

If they say anything, it will be a hammer.

Literally - their last post was two days ago. Please take a step back and re-evaluate everything.
Please towncase Maple for me. I want at least one person on each wagon to unvote so no quickhammers happen. I will be one of them.

/unvote

Yes

I leave for 1 day and a global mod has to show up smh

Basically, Arcticā€¦ I will try to explain this as neutrally as possible. Your case on Intensify/Me being W/W is as follows:
Maple is not W.

This is simply incorrect. Maple switched their vote off of Windward to PKR at Eeveeā€™s request to make the top 3 wagons -
Windward - 2
PKR - 2
Marl - 2
Until Eli slid their vote onto Marl right before EoD

Weā€™re pretending to be stupid by failing our nightkills so we could kill LHFā€¦ which is something that I can say, at the very least, I didnā€™t actually support. I canā€™t talk for Intensify without looking through his ISO.

Iā€™m not really sure what to say to this except that itā€™s akin to you not including Wind in your orderā€¦ because you believe Wind is town.

We have one mislynch available right?

We can use it on me if that is required to win. On my skim, looks like I hold the hammer?

Right now itā€™s 2 votes on you, 2 votes on intensify, with me, you, and PKR not voting I think.

well, I didnā€™t find what I was looking for.

But i did find this:

lol

so anyway. I didnā€™t find the post I was looking for and maybe I completely imagined it. All I saw was PKR hoping heā€™d been jailkept N2 when he hadnā€™t been.

I thought of something else all the ML targets have had in common so far.
Besides being kinda inactive and/or unaware of the thread, theyā€™ve also had readlists that generally go against the consensus. Their PoEs have been different from everyone elseā€™s. Doesnā€™t mean theyā€™ve been right, but it means theyā€™ve had different reads. The interesting thing is that as theyā€™ve died or been pushed, weā€™ve been taking their top scumread and pushing it next, havenā€™t we? Iā€™m not 100% sure if we did it with Illwei, but after Shurian we pushed Derps, and now that Derps flipped, Iā€™m detecting a slight change in reads again. Derps mainly scumread me, and while Iā€™m not seeing anyone push me directly (probably because Derps was just plain entirely unaware of the thread and he didnā€™t even make a good push on me), Iā€™m seeing something form that Iā€™d consider a setup. Iā€™m referring to Lightā€™s post in which he essentially says if Maple flips town, you guys have to vote between PKR and me next because ā€œArctic and Intensify are never not townā€.

Time to catch up on missed posts again. Sigh.

me

question is whether we want to do this or not. idk, do we want to do this? Iā€™m worried if we hammer Maple and Maple actually flips town, whoever is left wonā€™t be able to convince the remaining players to actually vote the scum out.

do we know the current votecount?

never mind, I think Light counted the votes correctly

by the way, Maple, what does your current PoE look like?

Iā€™m in a board game night.
What the heck is going on right now?

Maple and Intensify tied for votes rn
other than that? Light and Intensify yelling at Arctic and me for scumreading them.

oh, and Eli thinks the scumteam is Arctic + Maple

So hereā€™s whats up.

We kill whoever eli tells us to kill.

Regardless of my alignment, thatā€™s the correct move.

I think you and arctic are villagers. Thatā€™s 4. Other three are my poe.

better self-hammer

Iā€™m not yelling at people for scumreading me sigh
Iā€™m yelling at people for being idiots. Iā€™ve said it multiple times: I donā€™t care if youā€™re scumreading me if itā€™s actually valid. But if youā€™re going to be stupid and confbias yourself into a scumread, I will get mad.

See, I might be more willing to do that if Eli could promise to go for Light/Intensify if you flip town.

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